Season Low Points Pt.1 Off-Pitch

Recently, we were treated to a fine post from Chas filled with vids of the highlights of the season. but what were the low points? I am not talking about on-pitch stuff (was Ewood worse than OT?), No, I mean the off-pitch drama – those things in football which are not the result of the bounce of a ball.

Fans:  One of Chas’s vids showed the superb support of the Dortmund fans, perhaps the best I have seen. Fervent, happy, funny, enjoying their day out at The Home of Football. Compare them to the Stoke fans. In all my years of football fanaticism I cannot recall being so disgusted by the actions a group of fans as when the whole of  the Britannia booed Ramsey’s every touch. Can you?

Yes, we joke about their team of Orcs and we actively dislike both the Orc Leader and his henchmen,they deserve it,  but for their fans to boo a young man who has been seriously damaged in front of them is beyond ignorant. These people deserved National castigation, instead on MOTD the fool Lineker imitated their aping of Wenger ( fairplay to Hansen who condemned their behavior).

Did the Head Orc (Pulis) say anything …. No, of course not. Did anyone at Stoke? No. They silently condone the booing. Have the FA said anything? No, of course not.  Redknapp or Rednose (SAF) get abuse and the media are up in arms – yet  there was nothing was in the press about the behavior of the Orcs, apart from laughing at Wenger.

Fans:  Over the years, my dislike of  The N15 Neanderthals has lessened due to their comedic ability to grab tiny seeds of hope and blow them into successes (“We’re going to win the the League, or Bale is World Class” ).  West Ham and then Chelsea became my most disliked opposition (thanks to their racist and fascist fans), but when T-Shirts are made with “MInd the Gap” on them and they are then displayed at THOF, things have gone too far….. HaHaHaHaHaHa.

Club Action: Can anything be less enlightened than a Club and manager supporting a player who has been judged to make a racist remark? And then to wear t-shirts in support of said player? Liverpool shamed their great tradition and for that alone Dalglish deserved his dismissal. For a club who are rightly so sensitive about their history, this wasn’t just  misjudged, it was an act of madness.  Whether Suareze is a racist or not was not the issue –  he was found guilty of making a racist remark not of being a racist. How could the management of Liverpool get it so wrong?

Management Action:  Capello and England. I come from a generation of fans to whom being Captain of England is the very pinnacle of achievement. To Captain your country at Cricket or Football was not just a job given to the most experienced player, it was a mark of the respect the sport had for the incumbent. The idea that love-cheat, bribe taker and now racist John Terry has worn the same armband as Bobby Moore and Billy Wright is just sad.  That it took the Ferdinand affair to remove him of the Captaincy speaks volumes for The FA’s lack of understanding of our footballing heritage. As to the CL Final appearance – words fail me.

What are your off-pitch low-points? How do you think the Press write about Arsenal, are they even-handed? Do we get worse press than any other club? Do you think the Board of Directors are finally getting their act together or are they ruining our club? And what of the fitness regime’s? How is it that our players were in the Red and Wigan’s weren’t?

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101 Responses to Season Low Points Pt.1 Off-Pitch

  1. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Ingenious idea Raddy.
    The away strip actually hurt.

  2. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Slightly off piste, but football related to my mind is the choice of bar snacks at The Tavern. Look, its not hard. Crisps, nuts and Scratchings. So where are the bloody Pork Scratchings then?

  3. TotalArsenal says:

    BR, excellent post! :)

    You have been so thorough with your own choices, I am struggling to think about anything else. Need to give it some thought!

  4. Steve says:

    Arsenal will always be treated differently, because they act differently. In a Premier League where money, greed and manufactured success are the norm, AFC have taken the moral and ethical high ground. Those on the moral low ground will always try to bring the people above them down to their level, rather than take the high ground themselves.

    Imagine if AFC win the league, and prove to everyone that you can be sustainable and win things. Then FFP is properly enforced as a result of this. The ‘new world’ will have much less scope for the media to generate sensational stories, incresing views and susequently, advertising revenue.

    In short, AFC winning trophies is a nighmare scenario for FFP and the media circus, and therefore, we will always be derided for our ‘way’, rather than commended for it!

  5. neamman says:

    To be honest I have a fear of condemning people for their so called racist behaviour. [Terry]
    For two reasons.
    1] We have no clue what our players are like in private so it could easily come back to haunt us.
    2] They are paid to play football and as long as they play good football I dont see that their private beliefs are our buisness, right or wrong.
    I was recently reading about how George Clooney made a horrible joke about Charleston hestons alzheimers. When challanged he said anyone who supports the right to own guns deserves everything he gets.
    To me when we start judging people on their religious, political or private beliefs its a slippery slope. Do we start banning communists or maybe catholics becuase they are anti abortion?

    I have been married to an ethnic Chinese girl for 37 years and we have faced our own share of snide comments.. from English and Chinese.. but I will still support any player who plays for the team even if they dislike Chinese or mixed marriages. I may not like him, but when he plays for Arsenal or England I get behind him.. because ..I dont know him and who am I to judge? We ALL have done things we can be ashamed of.
    Ok.. I wil get off my soapbox!!! Sorry.

  6. LB says:

    Interesting idea BR

    Being a glass half full kinda guy, I always secretly believe we are going to win the league; I wasn’t even that down after our nightmare loss against manu, I just said to myself: it is early in the season and there is too much talent in the squad for it not to shine through. And shine through it certainly did, so much so that not long after I thought we were going to win the league, the problem for me is that there comes a time when I heartbreakingly have to admit that it is not going to happen, this tends to happen at different times of the season and usually after one particular game. Last season it was the loss against Swansea, I mean for goodness sake that team are not long out of the Blue Square conference or whatever that league is called nowadays. We weren’t just beaten we were out classed and it hurt. I walked around like a miserable old get for the rest of the week shaking my head and muttering that the league would not be ours this season.

    Swansea 3 Arsenal 2…………………..the lowest point in my season.

  7. oz gunner says:

    great post BR, like TA I’m a bit stumped because you’ve listed a lot already.

    The biggest low point for me is the refereeing to be honest. Season after season after season we get a rough deal (thanks should also be given to the media), yet teams like man united get the rub of the green. Nothing is EVER mentioned about them, and if it is by another manager it’s quickly snubbed off. Yet Eduardo gets labelled a cheat and we are labelled divers. It sickens me when i watch games and i hear commentators say stupid things like “Arsenal need to get tougher” or “Arsenal have a tendency to act so they can win free-kicks.” They saw this when a player like Vermaelen gets take out from behind, re you frickin’ crazy it’s tommy bloody V! He could snap every player in the league in two (and is tough as nails) yet if he goes down after a strong challenge he is soft?!

    Yet players from Man city, Man united or chelsea get nudged, realise they are going to lose the ball so they fall over theatrically, and a foul is given. Not one comment and it happens time and time again.

    Sagna gets stepped on and receives a broken leg…nothing said
    Sagna gets hit from pillar to post against City…nah thats fair they say.

    I know it’s not a level playing field, I’ve accepted that long ago. But to call our players cheats and divers really infuriates me!

  8. oz gunner says:

    well said LB, i agree. I always think we are going to win the league. That game and the one against Wigan were hard to stomach. WE outplay the opposition not the other way around.

  9. Double98 says:

    As an Irish man i would have to say that the lowest point for English Football, not just last season but maybe ever was the media driven public clamouring for Harry Redknapp to be manager of your national team.

    Steve McLaren for all his faults was a cheap intermediate appointment as you waited to land a big fish. But Harry was the messiah!!

    He is not the messiah, he is a very naughty and his Arfer Daly wheeler dealer, triffic, top top, nintendo whore, droopy eyed, tight pants son fathering gobshitery would have been an embarressment to the nation.

    It would have been what Steve Staunton was for ireland but with Steve Staunton having fathered Jamie Redtwatt.

    Harry has done the square root of FA as a manager – ruining clubs and winning an Fa cup and a couple of promotions and get this – the inter toto cup

    As a manager

    Bournemouth
    Football League Division Three: 1986–87
    Football League Trophy: 1983–84

    West Ham United
    UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1999

    Portsmouth
    Football League Division One: 2002–03
    FA Cup: 2007-08
    Tottenham Hotspur

    Football League Cup runners up: 2009

    You guys dodged a bullet there…

  10. Steve says:

    Neamman. with respect, there probably aren’t thousands of young children idolising and mimicking you (or I). If you’re in the spotlight, because these children pay (through us) to have shirts with Terry’s name on (and others), then he has a responsibility to act in a certain way. I think his character is of equal or more significance to his playing ability when he holds the position of England captain. It’s not just the children and fans he’s letting down, this man represents our country, in the world’s biggest sport. How does it reflect on our nation? Look at the poor reputation Germans have because of one man (ish), 65 years ago.

  11. Steve says:

    That’s right, I likened Terry to Hitler!

  12. Double98 says:

    and hitler for all his faults never donned a privates uniform smeared some dirt on it and lept around warsaw or paris as if he had been firing the actual bullets
    and he probably never shagged gorings missus

  13. goonerjake says:

    Motd constantly pulling us down
    Motd constantly putting us on low priority match unless we were beat
    Motd for linekers disrespect for wenger
    Motd for what me and my gooner mate see as a total lack of footballing understanding from a lot of the pundits (get someone like stewart robson on their in stead of ex spuds or ex scouce)
    Plus side motd2 aint bad.

  14. GunnerN5 says:

    I also found the conduct of the Stoke fans to be unacceptable – so after the game I went onto some of their blogs to find out what they felt about the situation. The predominate reason given for the booing was, in their minds, the fact that Ramsey neither acknowledged nor accepted the apology from Shawscross.

    As far as us having rough treatment by the media I can only agree but I feel that if we were more successful then they would get behind us the same way they have with Man U. I believe that success on the field would create more acceptance of Arsenal as a club.

    Although we never had the immediacy and mass coverage that we do today I cannot remember us having such negative coverage prior to the 70/80′s.

    I don’t know of any team that believes they get fair treatment from the referee’s – I think the game has progressed but the officiating has not kept pace with the available technology.

    One rule that really peeves me is if the referee saw the incident then his decision cannot be overruled by post game analysis – it casts the referee as God like even when it can be determined he was wrong.

    Overruling a decision taken during a game is however a fine line to walk – how, for instance, would they handle an incorrect penalty?

  15. neamman says:

    Steve, no problem..we all have different opinions.. I just dont believe we should be castigated for them. Its no one’s business but our own ..thats fair for you, me and /or Terry.. whom I dislike.
    To me the principle is more important than the man..sometimes its so tempting to make exceptions..but as I said.. once you start its a slippery slope. People like Ken Livingstone would probably never want a conservative as an England captian etc etc. Where do we stop?

  16. GunnerN5 says:

    Lets all get behind the power of women.

    ………………………………………………………………………………….
    Wife wants Van Persie to stay

    May 29, 2012

    By ESPN staff

    Robin van Persie’s wife has urged the Arsenal striker to repay the Gunners’ faith by staying at Emirates Stadium.

    Van Persie’s future remains unclear with Manchester City leading the pursuit of the striker, who is out of contract next summer.

    The striker has been locked in talks with Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger and chief executive Ivan Gazidis but no agreement was forthcoming before he linked up with the Dutch squad for Euro 2012.

    But his wife, Bouchra, believes the striker should repay the faith Arsenal showed in him when he was struggling for form and pointed to the fact that their family are settled in London.

    “Arsenal showed faith in Robin when he was going through a lean time, so we should not repay them by thinking about other clubs,” she was quoted as saying in the Sun. “Our home life and our children are happy in London.”

    Van Persie’s mother Jose added: “Arsenal love him and that’s a great incentive to stay. Arsenal are a fantastic club. They have no debts and Robin is idolised there.”

  17. neamman says:

    Actually.. having just read the article on BBC about Avram Grant and Aushvitz.. [spelling?] its really not fair to compare Terry to Hitler. To me thats where the slippery slope has already started.
    When Terry has been responsible for 20 million deaths across Europe lets talk.

  18. GunnerN5 says:

    Neamann;

    You’re correct one cannot compare Terry to Hitler – Terry doesn’t have a moustache.

  19. GunnerN5 says:

    Here are Roy;s final 23 for Euro 2012

    ……………………………………………………………………………

    England squad numbers:

    1 Joe Hart – Manchester City

    2 Glen Johnson – Liverpool

    3 Ashley Cole – Chelsea

    4 Steven Gerrard – Liverpool

    5 Gary Cahill – Chelsea

    6 John Terry – Chelsea

    7 Theo Walcott – Arsenal

    8 Frank Lampard – Chelsea

    9 Andy Carroll – Liverpool

    10 Wayne Rooney – Manchester United

    11 Ashley Young – Manchester United

    12 Leighton Baines – Everton

    13 Robert Green – West Ham

    14 Phil Jones – Manchester United

    15 Joleon Lescott – Manchester City

    16 James Milner – Manchester City

    17 Scott Parker – Tottenham

    18 Phil Jagielka – Everton

    19 Stewart Downing – Liverpool

    20 Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain – Arsenal

    21 Jermain Defoe – Tottenham

    22 Danny Welbeck – Manchester United

    23 Jack Butland – Birmingham

  20. neamman says:

    You’re correct one cannot compare Terry to Hitler – Terry doesn’t have a moustache.>>

    I assume you are joking and thats fine.. I smiled.

    If you werent I respectfully suggest you read what happened in WW2.

  21. goonermichael says:

    Sitting next to a couple of “Arsenal fans” at the Vila cup game slating our players and manager off

    MOTD (as already said)

    piers morgan

    The witchhunt of Suarez (sorry to be so un pc)

    Practically evry football writer excluding Patrick Barclay but especially john cross.

    The mancs cheating and all the people who say “it evens itself out” where are the stats for that?

    Loads of other Arsenal blogs

    The black bag fiasco (promoted by john cross)

    People who go on about that fat uzbek criminal being our saviour

  22. goonermichael says:

    The england squad is a pile of dogturd (except for our 2)

  23. MickyDidIt89 says:

    So GM, how do you rate Englands’ chances? :-)

  24. goonermichael says:

    I think we’ll get there and fail in the group stage :)

  25. Double98 says:

    neamann – i think you can safely assume that that was a joke.

    Lets focus on the Terry part of the discussion.

    How can England fans support a team lead by John Terry.
    He is vile.
    I am not a big fan of Rio Ferdinand but id rather lose a match and have him playing for my team than win it with terry.

    Terry is not only the captain but he is about to become the 4th most capped captain in the history of the english national team.

  26. goonermichael says:
  27. GunnerN5 says:

    Neamman,

    It was a joke; frankly I don’t need to read about WW2 as I could write my own book based on first hand knowledge.

  28. neamman says:

    D98
    I guess Id rather win a match with Terry than lose without him. As I said ..we have no clue what our players are like in their private lives. We cannot claim any high ground as..we just dont know. We probably have a mixture of all sorts who wear or have worn the shirt, and will do going forward. We just dont know. We can agree to differ.

  29. neamman says:

    GN5
    Yeah I assumed it was a joke but you never know.
    D98
    Let me explain myself better, 30 years ago a gay captain was unthinkable.. probably still is. 30 years ago what we now call racist would have been known as a proud Briton.
    My point is standards change and once we start down that path of judging players based on their private lives we open ourselves to all sorts of PC crap. In Soviet Russia if a man wasnt a good communist he wouldnt be playing etc etc. Its such a slippery slope, and I have no intention of defending Terry for any bad actions.. but to me we must judge a player purely for his on field contribution. Dislike the man but admire the player etc etc

  30. Has Roy named John Terry as captain? Surely not – that would be plain wrong IMHO

  31. Double98 says:

    Neamann
    I guess regardless of whether terry plays or not he would only show up in his shirt and armband celebrating anyway. :)

    but i think peoples true character is shown up in such public glare –
    You can always claim high ground its whether you can back up that high ground
    Terry made as wanton, premeditated and viscious an attack on Sanchez as Barton did against Aguero.
    Where is the censure? where is the soul searching societal analysis?
    There is none and the difference is he is England captain.
    barton is a thug who was known as a thug before he was known as a good player.

    Its not an isolated incident – but whey do we reward and encourage vileness and when did celebrity equate to leadership?
    I wonder if a lot of that england squad would follow Terry into battle.
    and that is what you need to win.

  32. Double98 says:

    Neamann –
    john terry is not a man out of time – and you can’t remove him from the context of where he lies against the social norms – he grew up in the same world as us… in 1982 he would not of blended in as just your average briton – he would have been offensive to his peers as he is now
    having said that – i haven’t mentioned racism – i have however mentioned cheating on your wife with your mates missus (then expecting that that man accept your hand of friendship), sneakily and purposefully attempting to injure a fellow professional out of the cl semi final.
    Their are many dimensions to the man and they are all vile.
    And most of them were vile in 1982, 982 or 82bc

  33. Steve says:

    Neamman,
    I’m happy for people to have their own opinions, but you can;t flippantly ignore opsinions just because they’re not yours. The Hitler reference (although partially in jest) was meant to highlight that although it’s ok to have different opinions, it is not acceptable to have some opinions. Racism and advocation of genocide being just 2. Clearly JT isn’t as bad as Hitler, but his racist abuse (and if you’ve seen it, there’s no denying what he said) isn’t acceptible in modern society.

    I also disagree with the ‘i’d rather win with JT, than lose without him’ argument. The ‘win at all costs’ motto is a Chelsea motto, and they are fast becoming the death of football (if not so, already). Other than Chelsea fans, I bet the entire football world would rather have watched Arsenal vs Bayern, regardless of result. It’s an entertainment business and the ‘win at all costs’ mantra is anything but entertaining.

    Is it really that sweet for Chelsea fans to have won the CL in the way they did? It won;t be half as sweet as when we do it….the right way.

    Good chatting,

    S

  34. GunnerN5 says:

    Steve

    Quote.
    The ‘win at all costs’ motto is a Chelsea motto, and they are fast becoming the death of football (if not so, already).
    ………………………………………………………………………………….

    Does that mean that you were unhappy when we won the League title at Anfield in 1989 playing GG type of football?

  35. neamman says:

    but you can;t flippantly ignore opinions just because they’re not yours.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Agreed Steve, I dont think I did ..certainly not intentionally. I would rather jaw jaw than war war.. to quote Churchill.. I believe I laid out my reasons..they may be wrong, thats always debateable.. but I believe them.
    All I know about Terry is he abused Anton Ferdinand, not nice for sure.. but maybe a mistake in the heat of competition for all I know. I also know he beat up sopme doorman years ago.. which to me is worse. I would rather be verbally abused than physically.
    I am not defending anything he did.. but coaches are not stupid..generally.. if hes a captain its because hes a leader. Like him or loath him.
    As I said.. Terry may be an easy decision.. but what if someone’s politics or religion is unpopular? Where do we draw the line? A persons private life should have nothing to do with the game. Should you or I be fired from work because of our private beliefs or actrivities? Its a slippery slope.

    I also disagree with the ‘i’d rather win with JT, than lose without him’ argument >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    No I disagree, but I grew up watching Peter Storey, still one of my heroes.

  36. goonerjake says:

    Peaches

    Dont know if Tohn Jerry is england captain tried to find out but dont know if captain been announced as yet. I hope not I find the man utterly objectionable. Looking at the man turns my stomach.

    By the way probably showing my age (35) but have no idea what IMHO means. Only just found out LOL stands for laugh out loud, Always wondered why my mates put it on the end of texts to me.

    Yours truly

    goonerjake

  37. glic says:

    John Terry is a cult figure of hate, but to the Chavs he is a legend, I would have had in our team anyday , because he`s a winner.
    Look at Peter Storey.

    “79″, 6-month suspended sentence for running a Brothel in East London.

    “80″, 3 year jail term for financing a plot to counterfeit gold coins.

    “90″ , 28 days for attempting to import 20 porn vids. ( “28 days later” was a film based on Peter Storey, he went blind for 28 days! )

    What a legend , wasn`t too bad at football either ! :)

  38. Big Raddy says:

    GJ. In my honest opinion. Though why there is aneed for the H one cannot say – probably an American who takes 25% more space than others!

  39. Big Raddy says:

    Glic. None of that was whilst Storey was an Arsenal player.

    One cannot argue with Terry’s worth as a player. His record speaks for itself.

    But let’s look at the Arsenal Way. TA was imprisoned over Xmas. AFC stuck with him and look how he changed himself. Terry might study TA and learn how to become a responsible giving honest man.

  40. glic says:

    Raddy true, but who knows what Storey was up to in them days.
    I once read that TA was JT`s hero and that TA has in the past spoken to him, but I dont expect him to change much until he retires and is possibly out of the limelight or has taken a responsible job in football management ( yes I know being captain of England should be a responsible enough job ).

    goonejake,
    I know Raddy has answered your IMHO question, but it also has another meaning when John Terry texts Ashley Cole, ” In My House Orgy ” , 9 PM tonight, bring all your contacts, dont be late .

  41. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi Steve@5.43 top comment.

    Hi Neamman: you have said a few times today: ‘A persons private life should have nothing to do with the game.’ I agree with that statement.

    The reasons Terry is hated so much is for what he says and does in his PUBLIC life. In our heads, and in the comfort of our home, we might say and think all sorts of vile and unacceptable/ unlawful things, but when we are in public there are rules, written and unwritten, we need to adhere to.

    Terry does not do that and yet he accepted a role of big responsibility in our society. He is a disgrace to this country, and if ever any of our players behave like that, I would treat him exactly the same way. I am sure, though, that Wenger would not keep a player of the calibre of Terry at Arsenal.

  42. Gooner In Exile says:

    Evening all, interesting post Raddy.

    Low points for me off pitch if we are looking at football in general (not Arsenal focused).

    The FAs continued insistence to hide behind a rule that doesn’t exist (namely the “if the referee has seen it we can’t take action”) I have linked to the article many times the FA and UEFA and FIFA can act if a clear error has been made on the field of play by the ref (think Balotelli at Emirates).

    The whole Suarez and Terry affair

    The Tevez affair

    More Arsenal based:

    The treatment Eboue received in the derby for Galatassary.

    Diabys continued injury woes

    Jacks injury woes

    Ex players sticking the knife in in the press.

    The tabloid media (written and broadcast).

  43. TotalArsenal says:

    GiE, nice list – I cannot argue with any of those.

  44. TotalArsenal says:

    The Italian PM is considering to stop Serie A for a couple of years as a drastic measure to kill off match fixing scandals once and for all. Antonio Conte, the Juventus manager is currently one of the suspects, and the only good thing about this is that RvP – if he ever did consider moving to an Italian club – is very unlikely to do so now.

  45. neamman says:

    One good effect of the current Spanish financial crisis is it must make players leery of moving there?

  46. SharkeySure'sGhost says:

    Low points for me are the anti Arsenal fans who were as premature (!!_) as the Tootspertz mind the gap mob in jumping the gun and celebrating too early.

    I’ve always said that criticising your own club or players should take the form of a solemn lament*, whereby its clear to all that its painfuk to say. Too often I read/hear comments that ake me feel as though the person is almost jumping for joy, certainly at least rubbing their hands with glee done in.

    * Brilliant example in LBs comment at ??.??:
    “so much so that not long after I thought we were going to win the league, the problem for me is that there comes a time when I heartbreakingly have to admit that it is not going to happen”

    That sort of pain’s for sharing, sat in a quiet boozer, nursing a pint til its warm. Its not about calling our manager Le Idiot, or making up stupid monikers for our players, or shouting out how shit we are from the rooftops.

  47. SharkeySure'sGhost says:

    I know others have mentioned the refs, who I agree can be shocking at times, but for me the FA (also mentioned) are far far worse.

    Their ability to present conclusions and decisions that completely ignore/overlook the wealth of evidence at their disposal is truly incredible.

    The judgements that saw Clint Hill’s suspension upheld and Balotelli’s challenge ignored, was a real nadir…even for those fools.

  48. SharkeySure'sGhost says:

    *done in* – delete !

  49. Irishgunner says:

    Evening guys.

    Good idea for a post – my low point was the defeat at Blackburn. Terrible game to lose. But hey ho, we finished 3rd and they finished … well … relegation.

    I’ve set up a fantasy football league for Euro 2012 for this blog if anyone wants to take part:

    http://en.euro2012fantasy.uefa.com/

    Code: 172618-40334

  50. chas says:

    Nice post, BR.

    One of my low points of the season was the Arsenal crowd at various times. Bin bag and other protests organised but never really happening. The vile abuse when the Ox was subbed against manyoo. The booing at half time against Villa in the cup. Some morons even took the subsequent comeback as proof that the booing actually motivated the players. You couldn’t make it up how pathetic some “fans” behave.

    I applaud the AST for lobbying to keep season ticket prices prices. If it stuck to issues such as that it would be serving its function, but wanting to get involved in the running of the footballing side of the club is just ludicrous. As someone on twatter said the other day, ‘I wouldn’t even have Tim Payton speak for me when buying a cup of coffee, let alone as an Arsenal supporter.’

    Dooming is here to stay and I hate it.
    I blame the internet. :)

  51. chas says:

    Haha Sharkey. “painfuk” is a beauty of a typo.

    I didn’t copy the sentiments of your comment, honest. :)

  52. Rasp says:

    Evening all, I’m with London, the away defeat to Swansea was hard to stomach. They were playing the beautiful football and we were just all at sea. Arteta didn’t play and we really missed his calm control of the midfield. Its a shame he never got to play wth Cesc, I’m sure the partnership would have been incredible.

  53. chas says:

    …season ticket prices prices. I can talk.

  54. SharkeySure'sGhost says:

    Haha Chas..too right…painfuk….I’m gonna start using that from tomorrow…at work !!!

  55. SharkeySure'sGhost says:

    Bolton away was the low point for me, and pretty much the only time all season that I thought CL qual might be an issue.

    Post game, on AA it was suggested that the flatness of the 2nd half was a ‘well lets not lose the one point we have’ approach. That helped to lighten my mood a bit, and as the season went on we saw more of this more stoic Arsenal at times (albeit not against Norwich at home!!)

  56. SharkeySure'sGhost says:

    Tim Payton….bezzie buddies of a certain site. Thats all I ever needed to know about him.

    As for having input on running the club…lol. Does he think we’re the Argentinian Arsenal…?? I know some groups of Ultra’s have an unhealthy influence in club matters…and also in local drug rings and prostitution rackets…allegedly.

    Disclaimer: I made no suggestion here that any person or blog type entity named above is in any way linked to or attempting to mimic Argie ultras in any shape or form via vicious chanting or wearing masks or black scarves across their faces.

    I never suggested any of that.

    Anyone got 26′s email…and that witness preparation list he posted..?? Quickly…??

  57. RockyLives says:

    Great idea for a post BR.
    Great comments all.

    My contribution: ZERO penalties awarded to the Arsenal at home last season.

    That’s such a joke, when you see the likes of Young, Bale and Suarez plummeting like tipsy high-board divers.

  58. SharkeySure'sGhost says:

    Oh yeah…and good post Randy….not that I was ever here today, making slanderous comments… or not

    Re GJ’s IMHO…I had the H down for ‘humble’…but then again, judging by what usually follows on many sites its probably something like halfwit, half baked, hideous horrendous, hollow etc….

    Night

  59. Rasp says:

    Out of interest Sharkey – why are you a ‘ghost’?

  60. Irishgunner says:

    I’m bored without football – is it Friday week yet? :(

  61. goonermichael says:

    It’s desperate Irish. Hate the Euros too. Messing up our transfer plans

  62. steve says:

    its sad that truth is misjudged. The epl must try harder to stand and yes or no their decisions and treat every issue without fear or favor

  63. chas says:

    The mancs only had 9 at home, Rocky,,, what’re you complaining about.
    http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Premier_League_Penalty_Statistics.html

  64. Irishgunner says:

    Darn GM – I had a whole response typed out and it disappeared :(

    Apart from the chaos it causes with the transfer market and injuries, I love the Euros. Two football matches each evening – yes please :)

  65. TotalArsenal says:

    Hear, hear Irish, the Euros are great :) My second favourite football tournament (after CL).

  66. Irishgunner says:

    I think they are better than the WC, the Euros have stronger teams, WC has too much muck to rid out early on.

  67. TotalArsenal says:

    Another low point is the re-emergence in the PL of Sammi Allerdici: ‘Don’t blame the long balls, blame the forwards’ – ‘Is outpassing teams and losing matches entertaining?’. Yippee!

  68. TotalArsenal says:

    The WC seldom or never has a surprise winner, but anything can happen in the Euros…. Denmark and Greece in the last 5 tournaments…

  69. Irishgunner says:

    I’m betting on the Germans this time round and France as dark horses.

  70. OMG Aesenal says:

    The low point for me was watching incompetent officiating week in and week out, not just for AFC but for other Clubs as well. As a retired national referee I was ashamed at how poor some officials were…and pleased that some were quite good, but in general for a professional team, the PGMOL is very mediocre at best!

  71. TotalArsenal says:

    Anything to do with Schweinsteiger?! :)

    I watched France against Iceland and they did not impress me. Spain are my favourites to win, closely followed by Italy and Holland.

  72. Rasp says:

    Hi OMG – “As a retired national referee” … tell us more?

  73. Irishgunner says:

    Ha ha a good bit to do with my man Schweinsteiger but their whole attacking set-up – Schweinsteiger, Khedira, Ozil, Muller, Gomez, Klose, Podolski and Lahm raiding down the flank.

    I don’t pay much heed to friendlies – the Germans played a far weaker side, not sure what happened with the French but Blanc is a good coach.

  74. Rasp says:

    Hi Irish, did the Mert play against Switzerland?

  75. goonermichael says:

    The problem is I’m English and I’m reprosented by a bunch of pikeys. We are also shit. I think we’ll go out in the group stages. Greece were shite winners.

  76. TotalArsenal says:

    I thought Schweinsteiger had a very good game in the final – he reminded me of Arteta’s role/position this season. Kroos was their weakest point on the night.

    Agreed on the friendlies. There was just something missing in the French team, but I only watched the first half. Apparently the second half was a lot better. I thought their midfield wasn’t up to much and defensively they were also unimpressive.

  77. TotalArsenal says:

    Rasp, the Mert played, and according to my dad he had quite a bad game. But he played and must be fit again, which is great news!

  78. TotalArsenal says:

    GM, fair enough. Are you somebody who has to support a team in order to be able to watch and enjoy games?

  79. Rasp says:

    Thanks TA, he couldn’t possibly be match fit. Its’s a tall order to expect him to be up to speed for the Euros after just a couple of friendlies.

  80. goonermichael says:

    Actually TA I quite enjoy games anyway but feel better if I have an emotional investment in the outcome. Actuallyl I probably won’t watch that much because of work

  81. Irishgunner says:

    Hi Rasp – he did play and as TA said not great according to those that watched it on Twitter. It was his first game back though and Low has included him in the squad so they must be hopeful he’ll be okay.

  82. TotalArsenal says:

    Apparently the partnership between Mertesacker and Hummel of Dortmund (who I really rate) is new and did not work very well. The Swiss Derdiyok scored a fine hat-trick.

    You can watch the goals through this link:

    http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3378/international-friendlies/2012/05/27/3131114/mertesacker-unfazed-after-germanys-defeat-to-switzerland

  83. goonermichael says:

    the chavs have apperently signed hulk. An italian friend tells me they have a deal in place for pep to be the manager next season

  84. TotalArsenal says:

    Agreed an emotional attachment helps, GM.

  85. neamman says:

    Low point..the Emirates crowd booing our team.
    Im with whoever is bored with the euros.. I may watch England but apart from that..couldnt care less.
    Im an Arsenal fan, not a football fan.
    I’ll watch Arsenal, …games with other teams that have a potential impact on us,.. Orient ..as if they are ever on tv hahah, and Rangers.
    Maybe thats why I dont care how we play as long as we win [re discussion on JT and Peter Storey. Although of course the AW years have been wonderful… trophies and beautiful football.

  86. goonermichael says:

    I think terry is a lump of steaming dogshit actually. I do care who represents our club and i wouldn’t want him anywhere near Arsenal.

  87. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi RA, if you are reading, hope your procedure went ok today.

  88. ak47 says:

    me too. TA

    standing ovation for that, thanx.
    for me it would have to be

    bent refs
    AAA
    stoke fans

  89. weedonald says:

    Rasp….what would you like to know?

  90. oz gunner says:

    @ GM

    hulk, hazard and Pep jesus christ that is one expensive haul. I wonder if they will sign pep on a 4 year contract then fire him after 6 months like they normally do.

    @ TA

    I hate watching football unless it’s Arsenal, or games involving Arsenal players. In saying that i hope the dutch or Germany win. I’m still waiting for a good dutch CB to pop up because once that gets sorted they are the best team easily. Heitinga Ba-lony!

  91. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Morning all,
    It would make sense that with these new signings their new manager has at least been kept in the loop. Will certainly be interesting to see how Pep does in the prem.
    While driving yesterday, TalkRadio mentioned Chavs being in for Theo. Where did that one come from?

  92. chas says:

    This made me laugh, ‘relatively modestly priced at £17.5 million’…
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/may/29/shinji-kagawa-manchester-united

  93. SharkeySure'sGhost says:

    Rasp – re ‘Ghost’ I once mentioned that another blogger was ‘killing me’. Then someone popped up with ..’oh no abc has killed Sharkey’.

    After a few days mourning I came back in my present form !

  94. evonne says:

    Chas @7:14 – bloody hell, the first part is the scariest horror movie I have seen. Gosh, did it really happen? Phew…how did we survive??
    Did TH return change our fortunes?
    did the fans refusing to give up, brought the team back to life?

    Wenger? He looked a broken man. You know when you really love someone, their pain hurts you? I truly love Wenger and to see him suffering, makes me sad, so very sad.

    Anyway, there was a happy ending :)
    what is that tune ‘I just want you to know who I am’? Very catchy

  95. evonne says:

    Goo Goo Dolls, found it

  96. Gooner In Exile says:

    Chas, thanks for that video, that has given me a warm tingly feeling inside….absolutely superb.

  97. Big Raddy says:

    chas. Tremendous vid. Thanks.

    It appears Roman didn’t give up on his Chelsea project after winning the CL. Shame……..

  98. Morning all

    New Post …………………..

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