Blast from the Past Part 3: The Arsenal Win The League

One year after winning 1930 FA Cup Final, Arsenal continued their rise to the top echelons of football with their first league title. Herbert Chapman’s team had the exceptional forward line of Jack Lambert, David Jack and Cliff Bastin and opposition defences simply could not cope with their combined skills. Lambert scored 38 goals in 34 matches, Jack 31 in 35 and Bastin 28 from 42. Joe Hulme also netted 14 times as Arsenal scored 127 league goals, a club record for a single season.

Arsenal handed out a number of thrashings. Grimsby Town were on the end of a 9-1 hiding in a replay of the game that was abandoned on December 6th 1930, although they could consider themselves slightly unlucky as they were leading 1-0 when the game was abandoned, due to fog after 63 minutes. Blackpool lost 7-1 at Highbury, Derby conceded six on their visit to North London, and Arsenal won 7-2 at Leicester. It was an exciting time to be a Gunner. Cliff Bastin ~ already Arsenal’s youngest scorer, became their youngest scorer of a hat-trick (at 18) in a 6-3 win over Derby on February 14, and was the all-time leading scorer until Ian Wright.

Arsenal won four of their first seven games by 4-1 and looked the only possible winners after beating their nearest challengers, Aston Villa, 5-2 on November 8 – a defeat compounded by Villa’s 6-4 home defeat by Derby the following week. Villa won the return against Arsenal 5-1 in March, but by then it was too late.

In the second-highest scoring season in top-flight history, there was any number of eye-popping results. Leeds United were relegated despite beating Blackpool 7-3, Middlesbrough 7-0 and Man Utd 5-0. Man Utd’ shapless defence let in 115 goals as they lost their first 12 games, starting 4-3, 3-1, 6-0, 6-2, 7-4. Blackpool, who stayed up thanks to a 2-2 draw with Man City on the last day, somehow shipped even more goals than United (125), including a 10-1 defeat at Huddersfield in December.

Arsenal’s first League title (and the first by any southern club) set them on their way to their domination of the 1930s. The previous year’s FA Cup final victory over manager Herbert Chapman’s old club, Huddersfield, was very symbolic, but the championship cemented the arrival of Arsenal. It took Chapman six years to win it, but then the floodgates opened, with three in a row from 1933-35, another in 1938 and a second Cup win in 1936 – although sadly he didn’t live to see most of the silverware, having died in 1934.

The 1930/31 season also saw the debut of the Gunners first player signed from overseas, Dutch goalkeeper Gerry Keyser. He played in the first 12 league matches of the campaign. Another debutant was George Male who made his Arsenal debut against Blackpool in December and went on to serve the Club until 1948; his first appearance was on Christmas Day. The team played three games in three days over the Christmas period, and won them all scoring 14 goals in the process.

Arsenal’s 66 points were six better than the previous best in League history. Villa smashed Sheffield Wednesday’s First Division scoring record of 105, set the previous season – in their home matches alone, Villa scored 86 goals. Tom “Pongo” Waring grabbed 49, a club record. Newcastle’s record crowd (68,386) saw their beloved striker Hughie Gallacher return with his new team, Chelsea, in the second match of the season. Meanwhile, in the Third Division South, the lowest ever League attendance – 469 – huddled in the vast West Ham greyhound stadium to see Thames beat Luton 1-0 on December 6.

Only Arsenal have stayed in the top flight without interruption since then, Everton were Second Division champions in their first year below the top level and won the League title the following season.

The World Cup ~ was inaugurated in the summer of 1930, though not considered important enough for England to enter until 1950.

Bill Shankly ~ started his career with the Ayrshire junior side Cronberry Eglinton.
Stanley Matthews ~ was on the books of Stoke as a 15-year-old, though he did not make his debut until March 1932.

GunnerN5

Final League Table

P W D L F A Pts
Arsenal 42 28 10 4 127 59 66
Aston Villa 42 25 9 8 128 78 59
Sheffield Wednesday 42 22 8 12 102 75 52
Portsmouth 42 18 13 11 84 67 49
Huddersfield Town 42 18 12 12 81 65 48
Derby County 42 18 10 14 94 79 46
Middlesbrough 42 19 8 15 98 90 46
Manchester City 42 18 10 14 75 70 46
Liverpool 42 15 12 15 86 85 42
Blackburn Rovers 42 17 8 17 83 84 42
Sunderland 42 16 9 17 89 85 41
Chelsea 42 15 10 17 64 67 40
Grimsby Town 42 17 5 20 82 87 39
Bolton Wanderers 42 15 9 18 68 81 39
Sheffield United 42 14 10 18 78 84 38
Leicester City 42 16 6 20 80 95 38
Newcastle United 42 15 6 21 78 87 36
West Ham United 42 14 8 20 79 94 36
Birmingham 42 13 10 19 55 70 36
Blackpool 42 11 10 21 71 125 32
Leeds United 42 12 7 23 68 81 31
Manchester United 42 7 8 27 53 115 22

Arsenal Results 1930/31

Date Opponent H/A Result GF GA Pts
Sat Aug 30 Blackpool Away Won 4 1 3
Mon Sep 1 Bolton Wanderers Away Won 4 1 3
Sat Sep 6 Leeds United Home Won 3 1 2
Wed Sep 10 Blackburn Rovers Home Won 3 2 1
Sat Sep 13 Sunderland Away Won 4 1 3
Mon Sep 15 Blackburn Rovers Away Drew 2 2 0
Sat Sep 20 Leicester City Home Won 4 1 3
Sat Sep 27 Birmingham Away Won 4 2 2
Sat Oct 4 Sheffield United Home Drew 1 1 0
Sat Oct 11 Derby County Away Lost 2 4 -2
Sat Oct 18 Manchester United Away Won 2 1 1
Sat Oct 25 West Ham United Home Drew 1 1 0
Sat Nov 1 Huddersfield Away Drew 1 1 0
Sat Nov 8 Aston Villa Home Won 5 2 3
Sat Nov 15 Sheffield Wed Away Won 2 1 1
Sat Nov 22 Middlesbrough Home Won 5 3 2
Sat Nov 29 Chelsea Away Won 5 1 4
Sat Dec 6 Grimsby Town Home Abandoned** 0 0 0
Sat Dec 13 Liverpool Away Drew 1 1 0
Sat Dec 20 Newcastle United Home Lost 1 2 -1
Thu Dec 25 Manchester City Away Won 4 1 3
Fri Dec 26 Manchester City Home Won 3 1 2
Sat Dec 27 Blackpool Home Won 7 1 6
Sat Jan 17 Sunderland Home Lost 1 3 -2
Wed Jan 28 Grimsby Town Home Won 9 1 8
Sat Jan 31 Birmingham Home Drew 1 1 0
Thu Feb 5 Leicester City Away Won 7 2 5
Sat Feb 7 Sheffield United Away Drew 1 1 0
Sat Feb 14 Derby County Home Won 6 3 3
Sat Feb 21 Manchester United Home Won 4 1 3
Sat Feb 28 West Ham United Away Won 4 2 2
Sat Mar 7 Huddersfield Home Drew 0 0 0
Wed Mar 11 Leeds United Away Won 2 1 1
Sat Mar 14 Aston Villa Away Lost 1 5 -4
Sat Mar 21 Sheffield Wed Home Won 2 0 2
Sat Mar 28 Middlesbrough Away Won 5 2 3
Fri Apr 3 Portsmouth Away Drew 1 1 0
Sat Apr 4 Chelsea Home Won 2 1 1
Mon Apr 6 Portsmouth Home Drew 1 1 0
Sat Apr 11 Grimsby Town Away Won 1 0 1
Sat Apr 18 Liverpool Home Won 3 1 2
Sat Apr 25 Newcastle United Away Won 3 1 2
Sat May 2 Bolton Wanderers Home Won 5 0 5
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163 Responses to Blast from the Past Part 3: The Arsenal Win The League

  1. kelsey says:

    Yet another great piece of nostalgia GN5

    I note who came bottom that year :), the size of the central trophy and how many goals were generally scored and conceded.

    Where was the photo taken with the trees in the background.?

  2. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Wow GN5,

    You’ve done it again. Thank you. This needs to be savored, so I’ll pop back later and not let work ruin my enjoyment,

    Superb Banner there, Rasp.

  3. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Thanks GN5

    Would you like to adopt me? My current dad has turned a bit nasty and reckons at 48 ime to old to be given pocket money. I think this is an excuse. He wants to turf me out and use my bedroom as a games room.

    Those Ghosts, those Ghosts. The thought of having another era like that of the thirties fills me with over heated excitement but also a sense of dread. We will be able to handle it, or will our heads explode?

    This ones for Norfolk

    As Silva began to emerge from his drug fuelled state, he could vaguely see his young nubile wife in the embrace of this beautiful creature. Both women were adorned in white flowing negligees and span around at ease as the piano music played softly in the background

    There hands moved gently across each other bodies, slightly touching and caressing each others breasts in a rhythmic fashion. it seemed so natural, almost as there sensual bodies had merged into one.

    Silva felt a sense of delight at watching his wife in this erotic embrace, but shamed at his wrongful arousal.

    At this point he noticed Count Pelligrini. The Count sat back in his chair transfixed on the spectacle. Never had he seen such a stare. One of animalistic dread and horror. Stood behind Pelligrini was his brutish man servant Edin Djecko. His eyes were on Silva

    At this point Silva heard a feint moan of ecstasy from his wife as the other women bit into her neck.

    Pellegrini was now upright, eyes as wide as a well, and large teeth protruding from his mouth “Ahh, the ecstasy of 442″ he yelled.

    Silva tried to rise, but as he did, he felt the full force of an Edin header and began to lose consciousness

    To be continued.

  4. chas says:

    Brilliant post, GN5.
    Brilliant photos, GIE.
    Brilliant banner, Rasp.

  5. arnie says:

    Micky: I have requested Rasp/Peaches to send you my email. Please if you will send me the Red Membership numbers. Many many thanks. :D :D :D

    Rasp/Peaches: Emailed to Nuts. Please. :D :D :D

  6. chas says:

    arnie,
    does that mean you don’t want JC’s?

  7. arnie says:

    What a poor sentence construction. Rubbish arnie. :sad:

  8. arnie says:

    Chas: If I can get two seats together, myself and my better half would like to sit together! :razz: Is it a certainty we will get tickets on Exchange? :D :D

  9. chas says:

    I found this little film of the opening game of the 1930/1 season away to Blackpool. I love the crowd comments. The FA Cup is displayed too.
    (click play and bottom right hand symbol for full screen. Ignore ship :) )

    http://bit.ly/LSNcJ0

    2 for Jack, 2 for Bastin (film shows his penalty)

    http://www.11v11.com/matches/blackpool-v-arsenal-30-august-1930-65461/

  10. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Well done GN5, a great reminder of past glories and legendary names.

    Terry, I see a future for you in writing bodice rippers set at Premiership football clubs, please may I be your literary agent, my take will only be 45% plus expenses.

  11. chas says:

    arnie,
    Only if two seats come up alongside each other.
    It’s much better if you sit together, though.
    Once you have a red membership number you’ll be able to have a look. I can’t look with mine as it assumes I want to sell my seat.

    Tickets will be appearing all the time, I’d imagine.

  12. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Chas, I can’t get the clip to display.

  13. chas says:

    NG,
    Did you wait for it to buffer?
    What type machine and browser are you using?

  14. chas says:

    Doesn’t look like that worked either :(

  15. 26may1989 says:

    Great stuff, GN5. And how good were they able to bling things up, back then? The size of that shield, it dwarfs the League Championship trophy and the Charity Shield.

    On another front, arseblog has outrageously stolen Rocky’s thunder, with “Deathrun 1″ clearly being a rip-off of the now famed Death Clusters: see http://news.arseblog.com/2014/02/gibbs-and-wenger-ready-to-enjoy-deathrun-1/?utm_source=feedburner.com%2Farseblognews&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arseblognews+%28Arseblog+News+-+the+Arsenal+news+site%29

    Bloody cheek……

  16. arnie says:

    Chas: Let me see. Will you be able to hold off JC’s for just a day? Happy to bear the risk of not being able to sell later. :D :D

  17. arnie says:

    That works!!!! Absolutely brilliant, Chas!!! :D :D :D

  18. chas says:

    Yes, of course, arnie.
    I’d imagine it will sell on the Exchange anyway.

  19. Rasp says:

    Brilliant work GN5 …. and rather spooky – I designed the banner before you wrote the post and yet with the exception of the pic of Rocky, it couldn’t be more appropriate :)

    I love this nostalgia. It serves as a lesson to us all. Chas’ clip of the FA cup game is pure gold. Bastin just turned round and walked away after he scored the penalty almost as if to say, well that was too easy, I shouldn’t celebrate out of respect for the opposition.

  20. chas says:
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  22. chas says:

    Rasp,
    The clip is from the first League game of the season. The cup was on display because we’d won it a few months earlier in the previous season.

  23. arnie – I’ll have a look for you ………..

  24. There are no seats available at the moment.

  25. GunnerN5 says:

    The kind comments are appreciated.
    Great movie clips chas, that one brings back memories of my early days standing under the clock.

    Rasp, the banner is perfect – it’s incredible that chose the same team picture as GIE used in the post, before you had seen the post.

  26. Rasp says:

    Thanks chas, of vourse – I watched the clip and should have known that :oops: I love the comments from the guys in the crowd near the camera – not a profanity to be heard!

    Hi GN5, yes, that is the best pic of the team in that era – do you know where it would have been taken?

  27. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Not here, but Arnie I have emailed Card details.

  28. What a lovely piece GN5, thank you. What a great time it was to be a gooner and what fantastic stories your family must have had to pass down. Well done.

  29. arnie says:

    Micky and Peaches: Thanks a lot. Let us see. :D :D :D

  30. GunnerN5 says:

    peaches,

    Maybe another series could be on family fire side chats.

  31. Vintage Gooner says:

    Wonderful post which I will reread to fully savour.

    However two lessons to be learned today. The first one for all sky blues is that the team that scored the most goals came second. However the team with the lowest goals against came top. I can only assume that an ethereal Steve Bould was doing what he does best.And Arsenal will have to beware the Chelsea juggernaut with even fewer goals against at present.

    The second lesson is that the clamour for us to buy Tom ‘Pongo’ Waring (regardless of his almost certainly being dead) in the summer will start now and soon become totally irresistable.

  32. GN5 – that sounds like a lovely idea :)

  33. As Big Raddy is on holiday we’re going to need volunteers to write the pre-match for the following games ……

    Liverpool away Saturday 8th Feb
    Man U at home Wednesday 12th Feb
    Liverpool at home FA cup Sunday 16th Feb
    Bayern Munich at home Wednesday 19th Feb
    Sunderland at home Saturday 22nd Feb

    Please let me know if you’re interested in putting your name down for one ….. or more ;)

    chary has volunteered for one, so maybe he can start us off this Saturday although his opinions on Man U are always very colourful to read ;)

  34. RA says:

    Hi GN5, :-)

    What a simply superb Post!!

    I suspect that when I said that I believed there was a tremendous well of untapped writing potential, it sounded like an excuse for not writing Posts myself. Well I am delighted to have been proven right! :-)

    You keep coming up with top notch subjects and write them up so eloquently. There are a number of others and you are all hot on the heels of Roxy for the mantle of top writer of the year!!

    Well done – keep it up, sir. :-)

  35. Gööner In Exile says:

    Apologies for absence last couple of days…..I’m just going to say NoroVirus and go back to bed.

  36. RA says:

    Barmy arnie, you are a typical economist – indecision is an art form with you guys!

    You remind me of a magpie when presented with two or more choices of tasty morsels, “caw, I’ll have that one — no, wait – I’ll have that one — no, no I’ll take both, caw,caw this is soooo tricky, Micky!”

    I thought perhaps you were trying to set up a soap opera with the “I’ll have your ticket, Chas — no, I’ll have tricky Micky’s — no, no, I am very tempted by Peaches” — next week, folks. we will reveal whose ticket the economist took!! :-)

    Now, how’s that (as Rasper might say) for a good tweaking, arnie?

    And – last evening, your time, you scandalously added 20 years to my age, and although I do not hold grudges, you will never be forgiven – unless you buy me a pint of Scottish real ale, when I eventually get to see you – and do not tell matron. :-)

  37. RA says:

    My sympathies, Exile. :-(

    Been there – had that – not nice!

    Tomorrow (3rd day) you will feel much better – trouble is, if the family have not already gone down with it, the chances are that they will – it’s very contagious.

    All the best.

  38. arnie says:

    Redders: When we eventually meet, my preferance will be single malt, cask strength, limited bottling. Unless of course you prefer real ale instead. :razz:

    Indecision, what indecision. I will take an Arsenal victory any day, at any cost, and that is all that matters in this space, is it not? :D :D :D

  39. arnie says:

    Yes, GiE, please take care. It will be a great drain on your energy, and will probably circulate for a while in the family. Unfortunately. :sad: Take good rest. :D :D :D

  40. kelsey says:

    I will do a post match review if you want another of my offerings any but not this Saturday.

  41. Gööner In Exile says:

    Cheers RA and Arnie, feeling better today, family have left me to suffer on my own, thank goodness for grandparents with spare bedrooms.

  42. arnie says:

    Chas, I have managed to get a couple of seats using Micky’s membership. A big thank you to both of you. And to Rasp and Peaches for all the help. :D :D :D

    And, of course, thanks to my friend Redders for all the good wishes. :razz: Uncertainty resolved.

  43. RA says:

    arnie,

    Is your wife an Arsenal fan? Or is it a nice treat for her to visit the capital for a romantic break. If so, do not visit the Tavern to meet Terry, he will confuse her with his story of ghosts, and he and his wig will flirt outrageously.

    Incidentally, I am (or perhaps the past tense [was] is more appropriate), very enamoured of both single malt scotch and a good Scottish real ale – depends on how the mood takes me – beautiful. :-)

    I have to be careful with alcohol as it does not mix too well with my medication, but just now and again I risk it. :-) [And then I feel bad!!]

  44. Wonderful nostalgic Post, celebrating the club’s greatest manager.
    Why is he the greatest?
    Because after building an all-conquering Huddersfield Town side that won three titles in a row just prior to taking the Arsenal job, he had to build from scratch with a club that had no winning mentality.
    Once his blue-print did come to fruition at Arsenal, his tactics and his philosophy won major trophies over a longer period than any other manager, regardless of individual game-winning percentage.
    I’m not convinced the Arsenal you talk of with such passion and fondness in your Post still exists anymore.
    I don’t think the title has ever been won by a British manager born in London or south of London.
    One thing that stands out is how many goals were scored. Proper entertainment! Did the off-side law exist? And three games in as many days over Christmas, to add to the excitement of the festive season. How times have changed.
    Thanks for the read and fantastic insights into the mood of the time.

  45. arnie says:

    Redders: Romantic break down in London? Sorry, with all due respect, Scotland would be more ideal. Yes, she is an Arsenal fan. :D Terry, now that is another matter!!!! :D :D :D

  46. RA says:

    Have you ever done a good deed and had it rebound on you?

    I had a really close crew cut yesterday, just for the hell of it, because my hair under the stetson made me look like a girl’s blouse as it stuck out all over the place.

    A couple of hours ago I moved my lazy ass and went to check on Geronimo’s shoes. Well he was very skittish and acting out when I checked the front hoofs, and when I then lifted his hind leg he farted pretty much full in my face!!

    Seems he does not like my shaven head – cheeky bar steward. :-)

  47. 26may1989 says:

    WATA, “I don’t think the title has ever been won by a British manager born in London or south of London.” That tweaked my interest.

    But I put to you Sir Alf Ramsey, manager of Ipswich Town when they won the title in the 1961-2 season, and born in the fair suburb of Dagenham.

  48. RockyLives says:

    That’s a really smashing read Gn5 – many thanks.

    Arsenal’s championship-winning 66 points would be worth 94 in today’s money!

    (Mind you, there were six more games in a league season than there are now).

  49. RockyLives says:

    Brilliant banner Rasp – you really are The Banner Man.

  50. RockyLives says:

    I see Brenda Rogers has been talking up the importance of Saturday’s game.

    I suppose it’s meant to motivate her players, but that kind of talk can backfire and put pressure on them as well…

  51. Lots of talk on twitter of the manure match having to be postponed if the tube strike goes ahead next week :(

  52. GunnerN5 says:

    Team news: Who’s fit to face Liverpool?

    Arsène Wenger revealed the following team news at his press conference ahead of the Liverpool game:

    on the team news…
    The team news is basically similar to the squad that was available in our last game against Crystal Palace. We might have Wilshere back and that’s basically it.

    on the boost of possibly having Wilshere back…
    It’s important to have as many players back as possible in the squad. In the big games it is always decided by having the complete squad available. As many top players as possible because most of the time these games are decided by players who come on or strong players who have a big statement in a big game.

    on Arteta, who was limping at the end of the Palace game…
    He’s alright.

    Copyright 2014 The Arsenal Football Club plc.

  53. GunnerN5 says:

    Herb,

    Your comments were welcome, thank you.

  54. arnie says:

    Peaches: Not booking flight tickets for the moment. If push comes to shove, it is possible to drive as well. :sad:

  55. RockyLives says:

    The only silver lining I can see if ManUre gets postponed is that at the moment they have Shrek, BSR and What’s-a-Mata-you all fit and well.

    If we play them later there’s every chance that BSR’s glass legs will have cracked again…

  56. GunnerN5 says:

    Rocky,

    Our 66 points equaled 2.24 per game which would be 85 points today. We have only exceed that twice 2001/2 = 87 and 2003/4 = 90.

    It took 89 points to win the last two EPL’s so assuming that would be enough this season it would mean that we can only afford to drop 8 points in our remaining games.

  57. RockyLives says:

    Gn5
    I wish you hand’t told me that!

  58. GunnerN5 says:

    Ouch!!!

  59. RockyLives says:

    No sign of Totteringham in that league table from 1931 :)

  60. Vinay says:

    We won the league and those duds finished last!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how i wish it happens every season, i hate them to the core, more than spuds or any other team.

    Sat and Wed may not decide the league, win them and we may decide the league ourselves, come on Arsenal please, pretty please

  61. GunnerN5 says:

    Rocky the other delight is that in the year of our 1st Championship Title – Man U were relegated.

    Oh what joyous times……………..

  62. arnie says:

    Vinay, GN5: What cordination of thought …… :D :D

  63. GunnerN5 says:

    More like combined detest Arnie.

  64. arnie says:

    GN5: What was the points system? Cannot quite understand the Table at the bottom! :D

  65. GunnerN5 says:

    Arnie the heading was incorrect it should have been GD = goal difference.

  66. arnie says:

    yes, GN5, right!!! :D

  67. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Peaches/Rasp, Post e mailed.

    Chas, brilliant work with the Movietone News clip.

    Arnie, I think it was 1 point for a draw, 2 for a win.

  68. TwentyTwelve says:

    Arnie, those look like goal diff actually. GN5 thank you again for your wonderful club stories. I hope the official site would pick it up again for others to enjoy.

  69. arnie says:

    NG: Yes, that is what I was trying to calculate. Hence these are not comparable with current points system. Even more remarkable what a fantastic season it was.

    Also, another point to note is that Totnumbs had already dropped out of teh Division, and ManUre was relegated that year. This shows how competitive the League was those days. This makes Arsenal’s domination over the 1930s even more remarkable. :D :D

  70. Just found this great article on Arsenal.com in the best of the blogs section. Brought tears to my eyes …… sharing Arsenal memories :)

    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/my-nan-and-thierry-henry

  71. Thank you NG for the post.

  72. Does anyone fancy putting their own stamp on a pre-match while Raddy is away? We need volunteers for ….

    Liverpool away this Saturday
    Man U home next Wednesday
    Liverpool home Saturday week
    Bayern Munich home Wednesday 19th Feb
    Sunderland home Saturday 22nd Feb

  73. kelsey says:

    peaches
    as I said earlier I can do the post match review for any of those games except this Sunday, and I am still waiting for your e mail.

    A small statistic on here: i had the first comment today and I am still waiting to find out where that picture was taken, which proves most people don’t read all the posts :)

    Herb, I respect your opinion but you never come up with an alternative.

  74. arnie says:

    Kelsey: Or people who read your question did not have an answer! :razz: GiE would probably know, but he is off-sick! :sad:

  75. arnie says:

    Kelsey: Looking up that picture took me to this extraordinary site (http://arsenal.vn/2013/05/chuc-vo-dich-quoc-gia-dau-tien-cua-arsenal/) and then to this one (http://arsenal-fc.fr/2013/11/herbert-champan-of-steel-manager-en-acier-3eme-partie/). No closer to finding out where the photo was taken, except that it was probably photoshopped (I do not mean doctored, but sharpened) in Vietnam and is now included on arsenal.com. But I came across two extraordinary sites. :D :D

  76. MickyDidIt89 says:

    GN5

    I really, really enjoyed reading that. Thank you very much.

    Football really does have a timeless quality, especially in terms of the match day experience and the bringing together of friends and mates

  77. JanMan says:

    GN5. What a master piece, absolutely brilliant. Thank you for taking the time to put that together and sharing with everyone.

  78. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Bad news Exile. That virus is a filthy bastard. Get well soon.

  79. fatgingergooner says:

    Just seen a article in the Mail saying every squad has a player that can’t be trusted on the pitch, and apparently ours is Szscesny!

    Just shows how good our squad is if the keeper with the most PL clean sheets this season is our weak link. Personally I’d have gone with Bendtner.

    Spurs’ liability was Soldado! :)

    How much did he cost again?

  80. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Kelsey

    What the hell is a Post Match Review? It is, and always has been, referred to as The Match Report. What Land are you from? :-)

    Hardly surprising there was confusion last time, given that you always do your Pre Post Match Review Post :-)

  81. arnie says:

    Micky: We demand more of Kelsey’s “Pre Post Match Review Posts”! :D :D :D

  82. kelsey says:

    Micky

    A post match review is prepared after hundreds of countless reports have been written and read on the Internet or in the tabloids.
    By then everyone regardless if they watched the match will know the score,seen a million slow motion replays of goals, offsides,bookings, subs and who farted and when.

    Now a review has a diffeent angle on things :)

  83. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Oh, that’s crystal clear, that is :-)

  84. RA says:

    What angle is that then, Kelsey? :-)

  85. arnie says:

    Kelsey: In other words, the Match is no longer important because everyone knows everything about it. Let us just drop the Match from the name, and call it Pre Post Report Review Post! :D :D

  86. MickyDidIt89 says:

    We’ll get them, Arnie, have no fear. He gets up early. Very, very early.

  87. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Ha ha. Indeed, sod The Match. Who needs it?

    Kelsey certainly doesn’t for one.

    Must dash.

  88. RockyLives says:

    Kelsey,
    One question: do you do your Post Match Review before or after you have written your pre-match Match Report? :)

  89. kelsey says:

    Usually before the match, Rocky

    The angle of the dangle is equal to the heat of the meat, RA :)

  90. arnie says:

    Kelsey: “who farted and when”? You mean heat maps!!!!! :D :D Or do you mean whose, hind legs were lifted by agricultural lunges, Redders style? :D :D :D

  91. RA says:

    Look it is absolutely clear.

    Kelsey writes his Post Match review AFTER the last match and before the next match — whereas the pre-match, match report is written before the next match and AFTER the last match.

    It’s all perfectly clear —- if your name is Kelsey. :-)

  92. RA says:

    No kelsey, the angle of the dangle is equal to the throb of the knob times the heat of the beat.

    Ask any young lady. :-)

  93. kelsey says:

    I will take your word on that RA

    I’m just an old man living with memories, and hair :)

  94. RA says:

    On the other hand there are those who swear that the angle of the dangle equals the cubic of the pubic. :-)

  95. kelsey says:

    peaches mum will be here in a minute, RA ;)

  96. kelsey says:

    Right I am off .i just have to finish my review of next Saturday.

  97. RA says:

    Well, Kelsey, my horse did not like me getting rid of my blond mane — so I think he would quite like you, and would love to hear more of your pre-match report of the post match review written after the match and before the game was played, respectively, and complete with the pre-match results and player rating summary. :-)

  98. RockyLives says:

    Redders
    Stop! My neurons are twisted!

  99. RA says:

    Not to worry, Roxy, the Kelsey man and I know what he means! :-)

  100. arnie says:

    Ah, Rocky, that’s what you call your neurons, then! :D

  101. arnie says:

    Congrats. Collectively we have just achieved over an hour of contemplative and meditative silence. :D

  102. No problem, GunnerN5, your trips down memory lane are always educational, and a reminder of certain values among people that have all but disappeared.
    Hi 26May, thanks for pointing out Sir Alf, I should have remembered him, especially after winning the World Cup.
    The title has only been down South 21 times with four different clubs since the Football League began in 1888, and we’re responsible for thirteen of those.

  103. arnie says:

    That is getting to 3 hours now, except for WATA’s comment. hmmmmm. :D :D

    Nervous anticipation for the Pool game? :razz:

    Eager preparation for Norfolk day? More likely. :D :D :D

  104. arnie says:

    Chas: Are Ant and yourself going to Merseyside on Saturday? :D

    I am looking forward to meeting you both on Weds. Will senior Vines be there? :D

  105. arnie says:

    Peaches: on the pre-matches, I thought Chary said he will be happy to do a few while Raddy was on his holidays. :D

  106. kelsey says:

    Morning

    Well that’s finished. Couldn’t believe there was 9 minutes of extra time.

  107. Gööner In Exile says:

    Morning all.

    NoroVirus symptoms seem to have abated woke up at 2am feeling fit and well and ready to eat the house down….decided on a pack of hula hoops and a bit more sleep. Now up again and even more peckish.

    GN5 lovely post, was going to put a caption under the team photo to see is people could name the trophies:

    League Championship Trophy
    Charity Shield
    London Combination Cup
    Sheriff of London Shield
    Evening News Cricket Cup
    Northampton Hospital Shield

  108. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Morning Kelsey and Exile.

    Glad your feeling better, but Hula Hoops as a midnight snack!

    I was wondering about the Trophies, so thanks. I guessed one.

  109. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I was also wondering, out of the current PL sides we play, which is the oldest running fixture?

  110. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Just got this off google:

    The Football League was founded in 1888 by Aston Villa director William McGregor, originally with 12 member clubs.

    So I guess Villa is the answer.

    Mind you, then this: The first season of the Football League began a few months later on 8 September with 12 member clubs from the Midlands and North of England: Accrington, Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Bolton Wanderers, Burnley, Derby County, Everton, Notts County, Preston North End, Stoke F.C. (renamed Stoke City in 1928),[10] West Bromwich Albion and Wolverhampton Wanderers.

    So it must have been whoever we played first between Villa and WBA

    And therefore, oldest running current fixture, between those two.

  111. MickyDidIt89 says:

    A new Second Division was formed in 1892

    The Second Division increased to 15 clubs for season 1893–94 with the addition of Liverpool from the Lancashire League, Middlesbrough Ironopolis and Newcastle United from the Northern League, Rotherham Town from the Midland League, and Woolwich Arsenal (later Arsenal), who became the first team from the South of England to compete

    Middlesborough Ironopolis :-)

  112. MickyDidIt89 says:

    The very first game of their League career came on Saturday, September 2, 1893 against another newly-elected club, Newcastle United. It took place at the Manor Ground and ended 2-2 with Shaw and Elliott on target for the Gunners.

    Ok 2nd Div, but still our longest running Leage fixture. Should have an enormous, and I mean enormous Trophy for that fixture alone. Kind of like Calcutta Cup in rugby between England and Scotland, or the Ashes v Aussies.

  113. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Conclusion: The Motning Crew prefer filth :-)

  114. kelsey says:

    Morning lads

    Still don’t know where that photo was taken. Possibly the training ground which might have been close by in a park as it wasn’t a built up area then.

  115. kelsey says:

    The Sheriff of London Charity Shield was an English football competition played once a year between an amateur and a professional side in England.

    The first game was played on March 19, 1898, after being devised by Sir Thomas Dewar. Proceeds from the annual game were distributed to hospitals and charities.

    The competition was short-lived due, in part, to the dominance of the professional sides, and also to a rift in the Football Association which saw the creation of the Amateur Football Association. The shield was ceased in 1907—although the charitable spirit of the trophy was to continue on in the Charity Shield; it was twice resurrected since, once in the 1930s and the other in the 1960s.

    There was a one-off game played between Watford (current holders) and Corinthian Casuals in 1983. Watford ran out as 6–1 winners.

    The Shield itself, commissioned by Dewar, was over six feet high—the largest trophy to be competed for in the history of football. In the 1980s the trophy was put up for auction and sold for £26,000 to a private American owner. It is on display in the Watford Museum.

    Well that’s something I bet not many or any of us on here knew.

  116. kelsey says:

    Did you know that as Preston North End were the first club to win the league they were granted to wear their club colours for all matches,be it home or away.I believe that still stands,but naturally they didn’t take up that option.

  117. Gööner In Exile says:

    I knew it Kelsey……because I read it on wiki this morning after posting the names of the trophies :)

    Still not sure what the Northampton Hospital Shield was though.

    What was our training ground back in the 30′s? Finsbury Park, Highbury Fields?

  118. chas says:

    I was having a look yesterday for training ground history and couldn’t find anything.

  119. kelsey says:

    Is that a guess or a fact GIE re training ground.

    Can you imagine them all arriving, fag in mouth, eating all the wrong food,, being payed a pittence ,most probably victorian facilities compared to today. It really was a working mans game.

  120. kelsey says:

    Did you know Theo Phapittis bought Millwall for £1.00. I know the guy well and everything he does in business turns from shite to gold.

  121. chas says:

    There was a pitch behind the Clock End at one time.
    My guess would be there.
    I thought that the background to the trophy photo was a gas works to begin with but think it maybe just buildings.

    1929

  122. kelsey says:

    Northampton Hospital Shield was most probably introduced by Diaby’s grandfather as is tradition with Arsenal we have a very distinguished history of long term injuries :)

  123. kelsey says:

    I remember a pitch behind the clock end but when I saw it, it was concrete and looked like a five a side pitch but of course that was over 30 years later.

  124. kelsey says:

    Can you name them all Micky ;)

  125. kelsey says:

    You may well be right as the terraced houses surrounding the ground may well have been built years before. GN5 would know for sure.

  126. chas says:

    I’ve been looking at big wave vids this morning.
    This CCTV footage of the Japanese Tsunami in 2011.
    “Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet” , as Clay Davis would say, GIE. :)

    (the three point tun in the last bit made me think of trying to find the right gear)

  127. evonnee says:

    Micky – your 7:29 explains why Frenchies are sometimes – called complimentary ‘frogs’. AW is almost German, he aint no frog.

    Kelsey don’t you feel sorry for Diaby? I do

    GN5 – you are an amazing guy with amazing life, and amazing memory. We are simple blessed with your presence, thank you!

  128. chas says:

    Fever Pitch is on BT Sport 2 at 9.45 tonight.

  129. evonnee says:

    Arnie – never ask Chas about his trips away, he goes incognito. I made a mistake once and asked to meet him at Anfield, gosh did he give me dressing down……I am still traumatised.

    And as for age guessing – you made me laugh! They are all younger than you thought :) Sorry we sound like old farts to you :) Rocky, Chas and I are almost same age, I the oldest at 54. Raddy, Rasp and Kels are just a tad older, Micky considerably younger and GiE a teen father.

  130. chas says:

    Micky ‘considerably younger’ :)

  131. chas says:

    No, we’re not at Anfield tomorrow.
    We paid £50 last year and didn’t see either of the goals go in. It’s a shithole for away supporters. Makes £62 and a fantastic view seem like a real bargain.

  132. evonnee says:

    yeah, about 40 years younger :)

  133. chas says:

    My older bro is now retired so comes to every home game.
    Matt on the other hand is a little tied up, presently. :)

  134. chas says:

    He said he was 52 the other day.
    It wouldn’t be cradle-snatching if you made a play.

  135. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Yes, Chas, considerably :-)

    Like two years, and that gap narrows to one on March 11, when I will be in Munich :-)

  136. chas says:

    Hey, we’ll be the same age for several weeks.

  137. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Chas
    I’ve been trying to get Evonne into the bogs at The Tavern for a pre-match quickie for about five years now. I think it’s time to give up.

  138. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Chas
    You mean 11 :-)

  139. chas says:

    evonee,
    Away trips are planned like a military operation (ask BR).
    Especially when the hostile natives speak a completely different language (see scouse).
    Oh, and I’ve never given anyone a dressing down in my life. Had a few, mind.

  140. chas says:

    11 and a half, I’ll have you know.

  141. chas says:

    God, those bogs at the Tavern could raise Lazarus from his grave. Dennis knows what the Ladies must stink like!

  142. Gööner In Exile says:

    Like Kelsey I seem to remember that pitch being a 5-a-side Cinder (All-weather) pitch.

    It was replaced by the indoor training centre when they did the Clock End redevelopment.

  143. evonnee says:

    seriously Micky? I thought you were mid forties. Silly question to ask, you wouldn’t know how to be serious
    Ok gorgeous, you were just not very pleased with my disclosing your movements.

    Sochi starts this weekend, should be fab! Winter sports are not popular in UK, which is a shame because they are great to watch. Polish are good at ski jumping, cross country ski marathons and ice hockey. I am hoping for a few medals.

  144. chas says:

    Ah, I thought the photo I put up at 7.30 showed grass and trees. Maybe not.

  145. kelsey says:

    As we are old and older farts on here maybe we could have A Saga Roundup Day.

  146. chas says:

    They did use to train at Highbury as well……
    In actual fact that game of head/foot tennis could be out the back and on that surface the trophy photo is taken on.

    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/famous-football-teams-in-training-no-3-the-arsenal

  147. chas says:

    How about an Incontinence Day?

  148. evonnee says:

    some training :) all hairless, interesting

  149. evonnee says:

    Kels – in Raddy’s absence we could have ‘who has most hair left’ competition here :)

  150. Gooner in Exile says:

    Chas it would appear that way back in the 30′s so i reckon you are probably right about the location of the picture.

    Amazes me how much Highbury was developed over the years. The old West Stand must have been a scary place to stand

  151. Morning all

    You guys are so funny ………… :lol:

  152. Glad you’re feeling better Exile …….. hula hoops for the midnight munchies? what’s wrong with toast and peanut butter?

  153. arnie says:

    Motning all. Great stuff all. Pure entertainment.

    Among the topics for motning banter today was poisonous frogs! Eh!! Only on AA. :D :D :D

  154. arnie says:

    Evonne. Age guessing seemed to an innocuous little game at the time. Little did I imagine the barrage that was to follow. Oh dear!!! :D :D

    Chas. Did you get my message from yesterday? Not taking JC’s ticket this time. Would still have done, probably sending my better half to sit with Ant and you. But could not get any tickets near your seats. In any case, will meet on the day. :D :D :D

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