3 Points is 3 Points, as they say

My overall impression of this game was that we played slightly with the famous handbrake on. Possibly a more accurate description is that we still looked like we were suffering a slight hangover from the previous 2 games, which obviously didn’t go our way. It wasn’t a lack of effort that was missing, but more a clinical fluidity and sharpness. Whether this was more from physical fatigue or was more a psychological issue on the back of the last 2 games I am unsure.

Either way it was a game that could have, and should have, seen us score 3 or 4 and run out easy winners, rather than endure a nervy narrow 2-1 win. Their goal should have been a consolation goal rather than a goal that kept them in it till the final whistle. I had a discussion with Rasp pre game and we were saying the same thing about the Blackburn fiasco. We should have been 3 up when they scored what should have been only a consolation goal instead of a winning goal. Despite good chances and superior dominance in some games we fail to clinically finish chances off and put games to bed early.

We will put 4,5,6, or 7 past some teams but we are not consistently clinical in our finishing at the moment. Maybe Arsène has identified this as a problem and the rumours about David Villa do indeed carry some weight.

On to the game and we had an early chance when Wilshere was put through behind the Villa defence by a good early ball from Giroud. He looked up and saw that Walcott was making an effort to get into the box but decided the better option was to go it alone and shoot from a tight angle. Was it the wrong option? Maybe the pull back to Walcott was the better option but hindsight, as they say, is a wonderful thing, so it is not a point I would criticise.

santi vs villa

We continued to try and take the game to Villa and got the early break-through. Cazorla received the ball on the left side of the Villa box and seemed to try and play a partial through ball, partial shot. Either way the ball was rebounded to him again and his trademark quick footwork didn’t allow the nearest Villa defenders any time to get at him and he made no mistake with a low powerful shot that went between and through the legs of the Villa defenders, bending away from Guzan, and into the net. 1-0 to the good guys.

After this we seemed to become a little casual and passes seemed to come up short or just behind their intended targets. Even Jack was gifting away possession at times. Villa had 3 good opportunities to try and hit us on the break as a result and twice Szczesny was called into action with the third going dangerously across our 6 yard box with Agbonlahor just failing to connect. The interesting thing for me was that all 3 chances came from balls from our left flank where Villa had got behind Monreal. It seemed to be an area they targeted to me and is a point I would like to open for discussion. How did this situation occur 3 times when we were 1-0 up?

We entered the second half with a bit more purpose and continued to try and get the second goal. Giroud played a couple of flicks with Cazorla and immediately got the return pass putting him through on goal. Unfortunately the big man didn’t have his shooting boots on in this game.

On 61 minutes Ramsey came on for Diaby. I thought it was because Diaby was only having a so-so game but I now believe it was due to another injury. Shortly after this we had everyone bar 3 players forward for a corner which they managed to hoof upfield. Jenkinsons headed clearance was ineffective and the ball eventually found its way to Weimann. He was still a long way out but the 3 defenders left back from the corner retreated as he advanced and our returning defenders didn’t manage to get back in time. He fired a shot from some distance. It wasn’t a bad shot but was no screamer. Szczesny seemed to dive in slow motion and the ball squirmed past him. It is one he should have saved.

On 76 Podolski came on for Jenkinson to try and win the game. I was worried about how this would leave us exposed on the counter but Villa didn’t offer up much else and it was mainly all us trying to get the decisive goal. We had a number of wide balls coming in that no forward player seemed to want to take a chance with and get into the 6 yard box.

We have seen this many times before, and it seems to be a long-standing habit of ours. On 85 minutes, however, a good ball from Wilshere put Monreal through down the left. This time Giroud made the run into the 6 yard box. Crucially it dragged defenders with him and left space behind where Cazorla was lurking. Monreal picked the right option and left Cazorla a relatively simple finish.

santi vs villa2

There wasn’t too much drama after this, although it didn’t seem that way at the time. Koscielny came on for Walcott to shore us up for the closing minutes of injury time, and we saw the game out. 3 vital points especially with Everton losing. We can sit back now for the rest of the weekend and hope that Citeh and West-Ham can do us a favour.

On to the ratings.

Szczesny 6 - He actually made a couple of vital stops earlier on but should have prevented their goal.

Jenkinson 7 - I thought Jenks had a solid game. He generally put good balls in and didn’t seem to be found wanting when the pacey Agbonlahor tried to get at him.

Mertesacker 7 - Didn’t do too much wrong all game and it was a solid performance. A couple of key blocks also.

Vermaelen 7 - Much the same as with Mertesacker.

Nacho 7 - I didn’t like the way we were exposed behind him but he did get some good balls into the box and set up the decisive goal.

Arteta 7 - Nothing spectacular but kept us ticking and I can’t remember any mistakes from him.

Diaby 6 - Occasional moments but seems to have lost the powerful influence he showed against Liverpool earlier this season.

Wilshere 8 - Was a bit sloppy early but took more command as the game went on and any win normally has some key contribution from Jack. Maybe looks a bit tired.

Cazorla 8.5 and MOTM - I thought he was an influence the whole game as well as scoring the 2 goals. I was also impressed that he seemed to put in a good defensive shift as well.

Giroud 6.5 - Could have had a couple. He wasn’t too bad but it didn’t really come off for him today. His link up play though is still excellent.

Walcott 6.5 - Not his best game but he always gives off an air of danger that worries the opposition.

Ramsey for Diaby (61 minutes) 6.5 - Nothing spectacular but was solid when he came on.

Podolski (for Jenkinson 76 minutess) 6 - I didn’t notice much of a contribution and I thought he was guilty a couple of times in not taking a chance getting into the 6 yard box.

Koscielny (for Walcott 90 minutes) - No time to really rate him.

Written by GoonerB

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131 Responses to 3 Points is 3 Points, as they say

  1. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Rasp Baby,
    You got my brilliant Ant ‘n Duck line :-)
    Had me ROLF LAMOWING all over the place the moment I thought of it.
    Off to get supplies, then back to savour the post.

  2. GoonerB says:

    I won’t be around for the next while so will pick up on comments more later. I think I may have short changed Jenks by half a mark and he should have been a 7.5. See you all later.

  3. Danny says:

    6 points behind last years champions who play Chelsea today. Fascinating as Mr.Spock would say…..

  4. Rasp says:

    :P Micky

    Vey fair match report GoonerB. We won, it was a very important 3 points …. but we need to improve in every department to give ourselves chance of a top 4 finish.

    I give up on any hope of our coaches (yes including the manager!) ever addressing the organisation of our defence – its past a joke at times.

    The average score for our players was about 7 – we need to get that up to 8.5 and we’ll be fine.

    We’ll probably need 4 points out of the next two games although the toffees game could be postponed if they win their FA cup replay.

  5. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Good morning to you all,

    I hate to be as critical as this but…

    A win and three points, that’s about all that can be said for yesterday’s performance.

    I don’t have a particularly high regard for Ramsey but I infinitely prefer to see him play instead of Diaby. Apart from his injury record (another thigh strain this time) his play is so slow and mostly negative, at one stage yesterday Mertesacker passed the ball forward to him, he returned it, Merts tried again, Diaby returned it again, Merts tried for the third time, Diaby returned it for the third time, Merts gave up and passed the ball to somebody else. At least we probably wont be seeing him on the pitch again this season…with any luck.

    If Giroud was a half decent striker he could have had a hat trick, Podolski looked pedestrian and couldn’t be bothered to try to get on the end of a couple of good, low crosses. Jenkinson was grossly at fault for Villa’s goal and Szczesny was….well…Szczesny.

    We will need to make a huge improvement if we are to beat our noisy neighbours next week.

  6. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Great read GoonerB.

    At this stage of the season and where we sit, i am very grateful for the 3 points, no matter how we acheive them.

    On a side note, Santi is the first Arsenal player to reach double figures in his debut season since the great King Henry. Not bad! :-)

  7. Amazing how much better it feels when we win :)
    I agree with Rasp. The defensive coaching is a joke.

  8. The manager is responsible for the coaching of the defence. He either does it himself or chooses a coach to do it.

  9. Jeanette Kliger says:

    Well, AW has his little favorites, Diaby and Ramsey, and he insults a great player like Rosicky. What is he thinking? Yes, that’s the right answer. He isn’t!
    Once again, I pose the question. If Mertesacker is as poor as some maintain, what is he doing as a permanent part of what has to be, even if it pains me to say so, one of the best defences around internationally?

  10. harry671 says:

    Morning Gooner B, Good to meet you yesterday and always good to catch up with Peaches, Rasp, Chas and Chary……

    Havent been to many games this season compared to most, but it was good to be at THOF to see the Arsenal Win and 3 points is just what we needed 3 points.

    I will always be positive about my team and look for bright things, but I also will be realisitic…….

    Good report, but I cannot concur with some of the ratings, we all have our own perception and ratings is always subjective.

    The team first:

    Lacked shape, positionally naive and defensively had no discipline which is why when they attacked us they looked good. Both fullbacks were consistently out of position.

    Moving forward we lacked fluency and had minimal movement which massively affects our ability to cut through teams, players generally didnt look to make options for other team mates, players didnt want the ball, which is a huge indication of loss of confidence.

    The basics are lacking and that I struggle to understand, my youngest was with me yesterday and he could explain what was going wrong?? so why cant our impressive coaching set up get this right?

    Some of the comments in the stadium were laughable, the atmosphere was tepid and negative, some of these so called supporters didnt deserve the win.

    As for the ratings, no one defender gets over 6, odd glimpses like Nacho’s assist for winning goal, but they need to defend first.

    Midfield, not good enough from Arteta, DIaby tried whilst he was on, but usual failings haunt him, both get a 6.

    Wilshere gets a 7 and Santi bags the 8, both worked tirelessly. Wilshere was a driving force, but his passing wasnt as consistent as usual, but he never gives up, ball to Nacho was sublime.

    Giroud and Walcott both get a 6, tried but drifted in and out, neither involved enough.

    Subs not worth rating, but I want to see Ramsey get a sustained run in the team, and for Podolski to start and then finish a game.

    We could and should of won by considerably more, but three points is enough for now.

    Fans need to get behind the team, I will never change my tune on that one.

  11. To address your concern about Monreal being beaten on the right of the defense: Nacho has shown that he can be beaten to his left by faster, quicker opponents. To prevent this, he needs help from his midfielder/winger to his right, so that he can “cheat” to his left. For all of the positive things he was doing in the offensive end, Cazorla was not getting back to help Monreal very much at all, leaving him vulnerable to the Villa attackers who were consistently going around him to his left in the first half. In the second half, Arsenal adjusted by having Arteta “cheat” over to his left to cover some of the space Cazorla still was not covering and this helped to stop Villa from attacking Monreal as effectively as they had in the first half. But, it also meant that Arteta was too far to the outside and too far back to get out to Weimann when he took his shot. Bringing on Podolski, who is bigger and a bit more willing defensively (despite not always getting back), moved Cazorla to a different position and helped to further close down this vulnerability towards the end of the match.

    I don’t know if Nacho’s vulnerabilty to his left is due to a lack of quickness in that direction, unfamiliarity with his opponents and the league, or a lack of familiarity with his teammates, but it is something that has shown up in a couple of matches so far and is something that should be a matter of concern for the coaching staff. It definitely bears watching because Arsenal can’t afford to have opponents “turn the corner” on Monreal on the end line with the shakiness of their center-backs (especially Mertesacker’s lack of quickness) and the way that their wingers and midfielders sometimes forget to get back on defense. Regardless of the reasons, Monreal needs to have the winger on his side get back to help him out on defense consistently or this will continue to be a problem. It is, however, one that can be sorted out if addressed properly by the coaching staff.

  12. Duck says:

    Nice summary, GoonerB.
    The defence were worrying in the first half but class told in the second half.

  13. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Harry,

    Yes the fans DO need to get behind the team, equally the team has to do something to get the fans on their side, performances like yesterday’s lack-lustre one wont do it.

  14. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    When Poldi first came over to us, i believed that he would be best utilised on the left where he plays now, but just once i would like to see him tried and tested through the middle. It may or may not work, but if he is given the amount of chances that Giroud and Theo get, im sure he will bury more than a few. Also, just like Harry i would like to see Poldi start and finish just one game.

  15. Morning(just) all and how much better your weekend mood is when we win.
    Nice to see the crowd before the game, Peachy, GoonerB, Raspers and Chas/Mallard but particularly good to see Harry back.
    If we can beat the Spuds next week I’ll believe we can make top 4(hell, if Chavski slip up we may have the 3rd place in our sights too) but till then we have this team til the end of the season and that is that.
    I have my report over here http://www.7amkickoff.com/2013/man-at-the-matchchary-santis-double-flushes-birmingham-villa-down-to-drop-zone/ complete with grainy pics and I largely agree withhow most of you saw it.
    Nice to see VanJudas get an injury, albeit only a minor one – let’s hope it’s the first of many. :)

  16. Prince, I’m quite sure Poldi has started and finished at least one game for us, I think it was a few months ago. Agree though, he is worth a shot through the middle.

  17. Janman says:

    Reference some of the comments about Poldolski. We need to bear in mind that covering back for the full back is not his game (something like Arshavin’s problem) he is a natural striker who happens to prefer attacking from the left side to the middle, this does not mean that he is a winger. He became a legend at Koeln due to his goal ratio as a central striker. Various German media sources (Kicker, Bild) have reported that he loves being at Arsenal but is unhappy with his position and role (tracking back) Also remember (to my knowledge) the EPL is the only place where you are expected to play every three days and there is no winter break. All other European leagues at least have a 4-5 week winter break. The pace of the English league is like no other. In addition (my opinion) he is not the sort of player that likes to come from the bench, he needs to be starting. I am not sure though if he is fit enough to play the amount of games that the EPL demands. I truly believe that the EPL needs to come on line with the rest of Europe and introduce the winter break. I am sure many of you die hard Brits will come back with the it’s all about tradition comments but football has modernized and therefore the thought pattern needs to modernize as well.

  18. Big Raddy says:

    GB- Really enjoyed the post. You are a very good summariser.

    Jan man. The main reason why the PL cannot have a winter break is because in order to do so we would have to lose at least 2 teams, and that is not going to happen anytime soon- Especially given the financial ramifications.

    Either that or extent the season into the summer which is equally unlikely.

  19. Janman says:

    Hello BR: Not sure that I can agree with your logic there! The EPL has 20 teams, so does the French, Italian and Spanish league, Germany has 18. I think it would be rather simple to introduce the winter break. Of course season start and finish dates would have to be adjusted but in my opinion I see no reason why it cannot be done in England?

  20. 26may1989 says:

    Good write-up GoonerB, pretty much as I saw it.

    I honestly don’t see why we feel the need to be negative about a win – from here on in, it’s about points and that’s it. We should give credit where it is due: Villa played well. In fact, they always do well at Ashburton (and were the scorers of the first competitive goal there). I find it pretty presumptuous to think a side like theirs will just roll over and accept a thumping from us. They’re a young side that played with energy and to a plan (a predictable plan but a plan nonetheless).

    The only thing that really concerned me about yesterday’s performance was getting caught out on the break. There were at least a couple of occasions in the first half where Villa were able to break two-on-two. And that means Arteta, Wilshere, Diaby, Monreal and Jenkinson were regularly switching off and disregarding positional responsibilities. Each of them (yes, even Saint Jack) needs to look at their performances carefully.

    The rest of the performance was ok. Yes, Sz should have saved the goal but as GoonerB said, he also made a couple of good saves.

    Last thing: as Harry said, the fans yesterday were really poor. I sat in the North Bank Lower (am usually in East Lower) and frankly there is a large number of fans over there who really need to get a grip. Negativity and more negativity, that seems the sum total of what they can deliver. I despair.

  21. Janman says:

    26may. Quick question for my education. At the old Highbury the North Bank was famous as that was where the die hard gooners were, singing their hearts out. At the new stadium I don’t think we have anything like that anymore or am I wrong? Thanks.

  22. Rasp says:

    On another note, there were a significant number of empty seats yesterday, the majority of which I believe were paid for (season ticket holders) but for whatever reason (fair weather fans) the holder decided not to attend. This is a travesty and wasteful in every way.

    I am not talking about the ticket exchange, that operates up to, but not on match day but the creation of a system on match days whereby someone who chooses not to attend can make their ticket available to a fellow supporter by a simple phonecall/email. It could be collected from one of the ticket offices at the ground for a fee of say £20, £10 to the club for admin and £10 to the club’s chosen charity. Hopefully the charity aspect would be motivation for the seat holder to make their ticket available to someone who wants to see the game. Obviously there would be problems in ensuring that they went into the hands of Arsenal supporters and not the oppo or touts, but this could be sorted by some simple sort of registration scheme.

    I know of someone who holds 3 season tickets and hardly ever goes to games – its criminal. The club loses voices of support and it looks like we can’t fill the seats.

  23. RockyLives says:

    Great report GoonerB – a fine blend of detail and insight.

    As others have said, the main thing yesterday was the points and we were good (and determined enough) to get them in the end.

    For me the defence played pretty well (Nacho and Jenks both had some difficulties with their wide players at times but overall did fine; Merts had a really good game and I would have given him an eight, and TV5 was solid).

    Our defensive problems stem from midfield and the lack of cover we have when opponents break.

    Lifetime’s comment above about the tactical/positional side of this was very well put and convincing.

    There were also quite a few frustrating “Denilson” moments from the likes of Diaby, Santi and Jack, where they would lose possession (usually by giving a ‘hospital pass’ to a marked team mate) then, as the Villans tore towards our goal, they would jog back with no sense of urgency.

    Overall we created plenty of chances but our game was riddled with individual errors – misplaced passes, bad first touches, not running into space to give an option for the man on the ball. A lot of this can be put down to confidence.

  24. RockyLives says:

    Micky
    Ant and Duck Show :) :) :)

  25. RockyLives says:

    PPP
    You say Santi is the first Arse player to score double figures in his debut season since TH14.

    Er…. Giroud and Podolski?

  26. RockyLives says:

    And finally…

    Giroud
    I’m starting to get a little frustrated with Giroud. I have liked him a lot and have felt that he could blossom, but he seems to need an awful lot of chances to put one away. Is it really a class thing, and do we need a top, top notch finisher? Or will Ollie make it?

    Podolski
    A couple of times it looked like Pod didn’t gamble on the goal-line low cross and I have read comments about him being slow to commit. But if you look at the chances carefully you’ll see that both times he gambled on the ball being cut back to the six-yard line rather than rolled along the goal line. You can see him swerve inside for a pace, then the ball is delivered and he tries to correct in order to reach it, falling just short.
    If either of those balls had been cut back we would this morning be praising his brilliant movement in the box.

  27. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Rocky, i got that info courtesy of ESPN.UK on their website

  28. RockyLives says:

    PPP
    What?
    Surely you wouldn’t put information from an amateur source like that above Rasp’s widgets, would you? :D

    Seriously, having checked the widget, you’re right – if referring only to the EPL. It’s interesting that all Santi’s goals have been in the Prem… long may it continue.

  29. 26may1989 says:

    @Janman: I wouldn’t accept the Highbury North Bank was the home of the die-hards, that would be the Clock End, but there will be many here to disagree with me! But your point is a good one, fans at Ashburton lack a focal point for the more vociferous types.

    Great idea from Rasp re seats.

    I feel dirty, wanting City to win a game but hopefully they can do better than the 0-0 it currently is.

  30. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Rocky :-)
    Im certain that Poldi and Ollie will get there (double figures EPL) in the next few games. Not a bad effort for a debut season- (all three players). Dare i say it though, Poldi played through the middle would see a 20+ return

  31. MickyDidIt89 says:

    GoonerB
    Thank you for the terrific post.
    As you say, we are inconsistent in our goalscoring. By the law of averages, or probability, there’s another avalanche imminent, and,
    according to my meteological radar, about 7 days’ away.

    Rocky,
    For years a mate of mine called Ant and Dec, Antoine Deck, and of course we brought Antoine into the converstion whenever he was about without correcting him.

  32. RockyLives says:

    Micky
    I always liked the line in Love Actually where the Bill Nighy character (playing an old rocker who’s just got the Christmas Number One) is being interviewed by A&D. When one of them asks him a question he answers “yes that’s right Ant or Dec.”

    PPP
    I, too, would like to see him get a run through the middle – certainly ahead of Theo or Gerv.

  33. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Rocky :-)
    Sorry, eaten too much. The lie down is here.

  34. Big Raddy says:

    That is what happens when you can bring on Tevez as sub and still have Dzeko on the bench

  35. RockyLives says:

    Nice to see Citeh win El Cashico.

    I don’t have any love for them, but beating the Chavs certainly helps us.

    After another “crisis” season isn’t it amazing that we are now only 2pts behind them on equal games played?

    Come on the Happy Hammers!

  36. Bayonne Jean says:

    All agreed, three points is all that matters. But: the space available on counters could be fatal against the likes of Defoe and The Primate at SFL.

    Also a nasty reminder: Szczesny’s whiff was spookily reminiscent of the same against Kyle Walker in last season’s away NLD. Does he have some kind of blind spot for those, or just not quick enough?

    Lastly, on Diaby: my issue with him is that even when healthy, he turns up with less than ordinary efforts much of the time. It’s not just worth it to carry someone who gives you the Liverpool match quality every so often; time to move on.

  37. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    El Cashico :-D

    That’s a classic, i might tax that one

  38. 26may1989 says:

    Don’t know if this means anything but one of my rellies, who works on high end residences, tells me Stan Kroenke has been viewing posh London properties.

  39. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Fine post GB. A much needed win and sets up nicely for our little visit to the Lane. i fully expect us to be the better team up there and if the ref dosnt succumb to there crowd we should get the points.

    There has been a lot of talk recently about how we defend as a team and loads of people alluding that wenger is some kind of sub standard coach who dosnt know how to get his teams to defend. People can take me to task about this but i have never heard such unadultrated drivel in my life.

    This is a guy whos team went the whole season unbeaten and in 2006 had one of the meanest defences ever in the champipns league.

    Yes, we do not press hard enough, track back fast enough, and allow the opposition to many shots at our goal.

    People fail to understand, despite the fact that wenger has been at the club for 16 years, that wenger is not a tactician through choice, not because he cant be.

    His philosophy is to attack, and in essence he is a strategist, who believes that in the long run this current approach will reap dividends. Its about balance and at the present time he believes that our current style, with the pool of players at his disposal, will procure more results than otherwise.

    in 1997 and 2001 it was said that he could not win leagues because his teams were too offensive, amd now we hear the same things again. By keeping his squad together in those periods and adding the odd player or two he proved his critics wrong.

    Arsene Wenger cant coach defensivly, he is incompetent in this area and wont listen or take help from any one else?? Total nonsense

  40. Red Arse says:

    Just had a quick whizz thru’ the comments, and find that I am either in a parallel universe or I need to buy some classes.

    This is the problem.
    I read Magic Hat’s earlier comment saying she did not understand how some fans could say that the Mert was/is hopeless, when he is a long term and current member of the excellent Germany team, or at least a squad member. (I paraphrased – obviously!) :-)

    Fair point.

    Then Rocky-Billy says he would up Mert’s rating score to an 8, because he had a solid game.

    Not too sure about that.

    The chances are that this is not an alternative Universe, because I am still big and ugly and do not have a bevy of beauties waiting on my every whim.

    Neither have I had the need to wear specs.

    The easy answer to the conundrum is to come to the conclusion that you are a pair of amiable and engaging agents provocateur, but …. that’s not quite right.

    I only saw the game on Sky’s replay programme ‘First something’, this afternoon, and with a completely dispassionate and unbiased eye — obviously — :-) I would rate Mert as pedestrian paced, and, for an International, entirely ordinary, and that his only redeeming feature is that he is tall, like one or two of the dashing bloggers known to frequent AA.

    Well, I’ll go with the lanky viewpoint then — that’s pretty conclusive evidence!! :-)

  41. Rasp says:

    Hi TMHT, sorry I’ve failed to understand. Its amazing how you can read AW’s mind whilst us mere mortals are left to reach conclusions based on what we observe in games :roll:

  42. Red Arse says:

    OK, TMHT, who are you, and what have you done to Telescope Terry?

  43. Red Arse says:

    Rasp,

    TMHT meant to type “IMO” at the end of his comment, and simply forgot! :-)

  44. RockyLives says:

    You naughty chappie Redders :)

    The BFG was our best defender yesterday. I watched the whole game and he snuffed out most of the Villa attacks (some of his interceptions and headers were extremely important ones).

    Are you sure you haven’t got it in for him just because he is a quarter of an inch taller than you! :)

  45. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Redders, Rasp, just my opinion that is all.

    I find the idea that somehow Wenger cannot coach defensivly riddiculous.

    I

  46. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Dont know what that I is doing there. I promise i want giving anyone the finger. hahaha

  47. RockyLives says:

    Terry
    My Freudian analysis tells me that your stray “I” is evidence of a narcissistic personality disorder.

    Or clumsy fingers :)

  48. Red Arse says:

    Terry,

    It’s not the defence coaching, or Arsene, that is at fault, it’s the pl….. [oops can't say that] — the Rock might still be around. When he goes for his lunchtime pint – I’ll tell you!!] :-)

  49. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Definatly both Rock. I do after all see things that other mere mortals cannot. hahaha

  50. Rasp says:

    No worries TMHT, the phrase “what you fail to understand” is a bit of a red rag to a bull to me as it always strikes me as a tad condescending. Since we’ve met and I know you are the sweetest of guys I’m sure it was just an unintentional lapse in your phrasiology :lol:

  51. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Redders, you could well be right there.

    Its hard to make a definative judgement on some of these back boys because they are afforded little protection. The team defensivly is not up to standard.

    But, in my view, this is not because Arsene cant coach defensivly. Its just that with his current pool of players he believes his attacking philosophy will gain more wins than not.

    Of course i could be wrong. Maybe wenger sees in training Santi tracking back and goes crazy or something, who knows? hahaha

  52. Red Arse says:

    What you fail to understand, Rasper, is that there are some very sweet guys that you have not yet met!! — and tall!! :D

  53. Rasp says:

    ….and American and portly I suspect :)

  54. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    hahaha, thanks Rasp. I could never be condescending deliberatly, i openly admit to knowing bugger all about most things.

    Just cant see how Arsene cant coach defensivly. Though i guess i have a habit of over defending him.

  55. Red Arse says:

    I have slimmed down to 18 stone, Rasp, — bloody cheek — not that we were talking about me – of course!!

    Otherwise we would need to insert the words ‘slim and sylphlike’ somewhere in that sentence! :D

  56. Red Arse says:

    That young Dyer is a very good winger!! Sign him up!! :-)

  57. Rasp says:

    I’ve just edited myself – what was I thinking of? :oops:

  58. Red Arse says:

    OK, Rasp, solipsistic it is then!

    I had better go before the urge to sit on you becomes irresistible! :-)

  59. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    hes palying realy well Redders. Feel a bit sorry for Bradford. have a soft spot for them after that terrible fire business. They are getting a bit of a footballing lesson.

    I think the main problem is that there not all that defensivly. hahaha

  60. 26may1989 says:

    In defence of TMHT’s defence of our defence ( :) ):

    Q: Out of Man U, Spurs, Everton, Chelsea and Arsenal, which side has the most clean sheets this season?

    A: Arsenal and Chelsea (9).

    Q: And of those same sides, which have conceded the fewest goals?

    A: Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs (30).

    (City comfortably win on both those measures, making us an honourable joint second on both.)

    So the stats seem to give more than a little support to the suggestion that our defence isn’t the basket case so many seem to present. Its problem (in my ever so humble opinion) is inconsistency, the malaise that afflicts us generally. While we’ve had periods of genuine defensive solidity (for which of course Wenger is given zero credit), we’ve had lapses where we’ve conceded important goals and soft goals, sometimes goals that are both important and soft. And when those go in, guess what, Wenger is castigated as a defensive moron.

    We’re not the best in defence but neither are we the worst. We have good defensive players that need to combine better, more often. Yesterday’s defensive performance was unusual, in that our midfielders and fullbacks neglected their positional responsibilities. I’m as critical as anyone about that, but I can’t remember the same thing happening in a game this season, so I won’t use it to make generalisations about our defence.

  61. 26may1989 says:

    Sorry, correction: Arsenal and Chelsea are actually joint third in the clean sheets list, since Liverpool have notched up ten. I’d ignored them because they’re irrelevant (in my mind) to the top of the table.

  62. goonerjake says:

    RE:- The Defence

    Only one problem, and to get to the problem answer the following question …..When did last have the same consistent back four, for 10 games… 8 games….. 3 games?

    We need to choose our most reliable in fitness terms back four and stick with them.

  63. 26may1989 says:

    My sympathies might have been with Bradford (due to some general Yorkshire tendencies I have) but it has to be said, it will be great to see Swansea grace the Europa League next season. I might not say that if we end up facing them in it though…… :)

  64. Big Raddy says:

    The fans at Wembley have been fantastic! especially Bradford.

    Made the game.

  65. Janman says:

    I wonder how many of those Bradford fans (or Swansea) thought that the league cup is a mickey mouse cup? I bet not one of them… I still feel somewhat cheated that it was not us playing Swansea today!

  66. GunnerN5 says:

    In defence of our defense we have the second lowest goals against per game in the league. Man City have the best at .89 while we are tied with Chelsea at 1.11. The problem is that some of our goals against were due to total lapses of concentration and extremely poor positioning/coverage.

    Our goals for are not too shabby either we are third best at 1.93 exceeded by Chelsea at 2.04 and Man U at 2.37.

    Onwards and Upwards…………..

  67. 26may1989 says:

    Oi, GN5, you copycat! :)

  68. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Hi from Swansea we come home the city is bouncing.
    It’s cold here so I still wore my arsenal scarf today.
    Best team won .
    Terry Mancini is funny he makes me laugh with his posts.
    On the defence chat it’s easy
    We can’t defend it’s a no brainier

  69. GunnerN5 says:

    26M

    Frankly I have not read most of the comments as I find them simply too negative and are opinions posed as facts based on hindsight. I will not get involved in that type of blogging – so most of the time I lay low.

  70. GunnerN5 says:

    Should have read – which are opinions based on hindsight posed as facts………..

  71. 26may1989 says:

    GN5, you certainly have my sympathy on that score. I don’t really care what others say online, that’s easily ignored, but the incessant negativity of some at the ground really has become an issue for me. If there’s one thing that will ensure we under-perform on the pitch, it’s the gnashing and wailing of those that have been listening far too attentively to Adrian Durham, Stewart Robson and Piers Morgan. Get behind the boys, accept that mistakes get made by all teams and all players, and bloody enjoy the football.

    Sorry about that, got a bit carried away there……

  72. kelsey says:

    Second time a cup has left England and we all know the first :)

  73. kelsey says:

    I would never argue with you my friend GN5 but a huge proportion of goals conceded have been through our errors

  74. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    We were going out for dinner today me face ache and the kids.
    Cyril the swan he’s the Swansea mascot.
    Was walking behind us down the high street next thing Cyril the swan pinched my arse with his beak .
    The kids and wife were laughing,I turned around and said .
    “F@@k off I’m a arsenal fan he run like a greyhound after a rabbit .
    Much love .

  75. GoonerB says:

    Sorry I have only just got back on but I have been tied up with the family today. Thanks for all the comments and I will pick up on a couple of them that have given me pause for thought.

    I have felt recently that we have some excellent attacking and possession midfielders that can rival the best teams out there, even teams like Munich. I feel it is our efficiency at either end that is still lacking, i.e silly defensive mistakes and a lack of clinical finishing. i would say that I agree to a large extent with Rocky that the midfield is often responsible for us being exposed. I wonder if AW realises this as there have been strong rumours about both Capoue and Wanyama.

    Maybe having one of these 2 areas up to scratch will make a big difference, but lacking in both seems to cost us. Take Utd for instance, their defence is not maybe one of their best in recent years but the array of clinical finishers at their disposal sees them literally score their way out of trouble.

    Rocky’s earlier comment about Podolski actually making good runs into the box but that he chose to pull off deeper is interesting and I feel I would need to re-look at those instances. From my memory I remembered a couple of times when the attacking wide player was running at full pace trying to get to the ball and deliver into the box just before it crossed the line. In those instances, due to the pace and angle the player is only really able to get the ball flashing across the goal-line rather than being pulled back. For me it is the responsibility of the striker to assess that this will be the situation and make the correct run. I thought Podolski was guilty on at least one of those occasions but I may be wrong. This would probably be worthy of a post, looking at our balls in and which players seem to read it better and which need to work on it. Maybe one of the more analytical AA regulars could oblige.

    I was sat 2 seats from a German Arsenal supporter who I got chatting to. He had lived here for the last number of years but his native club is Cologne. He says that Podolski is considered a god over there. I mentioned to him that I felt we needed another clinical finisher in the team. He said we already had one in Podolski but were not playing him through the middle enough. He may well be right.

    I was also interested in Terry’s stance about AW and defending and I can see his point here. I can also see the point that something is not right in our defending so for me the answer probably lies somewhere in the middle. Again I think this is an area that should be looked at more in a post by one of the AA tacticians.

  76. GunnerN5 says:

    Can’t disagree with you on that Kelsey, the point being that without those errors we would not be in this uncomfortable position.

    Concentrating on offense is great- as long as our wing backs remember their defensive responsibilities.

  77. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    🙈🐏🐑

  78. SharkeySuresGhost says:

    Cheers Gooner B …hardly a word to disagree with.

    I was glad to see a decent shift from Jenks, as I felt he was disappointing vs both Brighton and Sunderland.

    My quandary at the moment is whether Arteta is the right man for the role he currently occupies. I can’t help but think that Le Coq or someone else more defensivley minded would plug the gaps behind Monreal (or anyone else) more effectively than he does.

    Beyond that I don;t like to see him collapsing and drawing fouls as often as he does. I want to see someone back there with a lot more aggression, who takes pride in having players bounce off him in challenges, not always appealing to the referee for soft free kicks.

    Maybe Le Coq’s the answer, as to how we set a different tone for our play.

    Other than that, if we must attack with both FBs at the same time, then the L and R CB’s MUST drift wider, and the DM can drop in to effectively form a back 3 until the cavalry arrives.

    Arteta at 3rd CB…not for me.

    Podolski – Complete enigma to me…I just don;t like inconsistent players. orse sti;; I really don;t like players who seem to picj and choose when to put a shift in. Just as I’m questioing how and why he can be so lazy defensively…he starts to get lazy offensively as well. Standing static at the back post helps no one bar the oppo defence. Contrast his non movement to Girouds for Santi’s 2nd, as described in your HP.

    I absolutely love Giroud. He’s not perfect, but I simply love his willingness in everything he does. Fantastic attitude.

    I like the early signs from Monreal too.

  79. Domhuail says:

    RockyLives….you are right on about Podolski. I saw him play at Koeln and at Stuttgart quite a few times and he is definitely a powerhouse in the role just behind the striker or as the main striker himself. He was always playing across the field when at Koeln (because they had a crap team and few real attackers) and in one game he scored the winning goal against Stuttgart when he came from midfield and running diagonally from right to left picked up the ball and launched it into the opposite corner. Not even the linesman or official anticipated that and at first were unsure who had scored! Don’t forget, he is used to being the number 1 in a team (aside from his Bayern experience) of weaker players, NOT the saviour of a team like AFc with mostly strong players. Had he had a team like AFC in Koeln, they would have been in the top 4 in the Bundesliga that year for sure. the other factor we often forget is that German referees are a head above most of our British referees and apply the LAWS far more strictly in general then their EPL counterparts. I was a member of a Sportsverein (Sports Club) in Stuttgart and every month we had a meeting where over 150 officials attended and our top member, a Bundesliga referee, came to talk and lecture. Everything was transparent and I really learnt a great deal about how the Games are managed in the BL. This isn’t likely to happen with the PGMOL anytime soon.

  80. ash cole says:

    Well Arsene Wenger is the highest paid manager in the WORLD with no trophy for the past 5 years, highest paid in England at 9 million 1 million more than SAF! Incredible!

    In fact there is no manager in any sport or league earning half of Wenger’s salary that has not won at least 1 trophy for the last 5 years! Wenger the record breaker also owns the E.P.L. record for longest serving manager without a trophy in present history!

    So now that its an established fact that only in North London is regression applauded and celebrated cause AFC for 6 straight years have been declining in performance in the league and Europe yet gate prices and Wengers salary have been going up!

    So why is regression rewarded? Well it isn’t my friends his goals are clearly set from Stan to bring in the bacon that is $$$$$$ and indeed he does 16 years straight champs lge qualification, highest gate in the country, record setting profits from transfer sales, there is no manager alive today that can lie, manipulate and squeeze every ounce of life, juice, blood, sweat and tears from a club as Wenger can! He tormented fabergas, he lied to nasri, he did the same with rvp wasted years of his career most of all he lied to all of you saying if there is quality he will spend so Juan Mata, and Gary Cahill are not quality but Santos and Jenkison, mertesacker, gervinho and sideways passing arteta are? Thats why there is a champions league in west london and you wont ever see one in North London. Wenger never had to lie but he doesnt give a crap why should he? He only bought after afc 8-2 much at old trafford. He doesnt give a crap ca use as far as his objectives are concerned he has met them all and gas exceeded expectations in extra profits from transfer sales and I am sure with Cazorla he will make a profit again this summer!

    Its nice to see so many Arsene Football Club fans here! But does anyone cheer for Arsenal Football Club? Do you all fail to see that Arsene FC is killing Arsenal FC? Should the most expensive club in the country be in the relegation zone? Should the 4th most expensive manager in the world be plying his trade in the Europa league?

    Or maybe we should all applaud and congratulate him for the 16 year streak of filling in the numbers in the champions league?

  81. RockyLives says:

    Dom
    Really interesting comment.
    I think most Gooners would like to see Pod get a run out as either a CF or a second central striker.

    As for the Bundesliga – right now, the Germans are showing the rest of the world how football should be run.

  82. RockyLives says:

    Sharkey
    I agree and disagree with you :)
    I agree that Mikel is not an ideal player for the holding MF role and that we might be better off with a proper, physical DM.
    But I also think we should be careful not to underestimate his contribution. The amount of oppo attacks he breaks up with intelligent positioning and clever interventions is pretty impressive. And, of course, once he has the ball, his passing and general play are a cut above that of most DMs.

  83. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Dont be like that ash. Whats Arsene ever done to you?

    Last year whilst queing in Tescos i felt a mans hand fondle my bottom. I was so shocked and scared i just stared ahead whilst this deviant carressed my my butt cheks. After i left the shop i convinced myself my assaliant was Andre Villa Boas. Its only the past month or so i have realised that it cant of been him. Apperantly he lives no were near Bounds Green.

    I suspect something like that might have happened to you. But i can assure you it wasnt Arsene. The best way for you to recover from this terrible event is to go Tescos at peak time everyday, stand in the queue and not look behind.

    Ok, if you get fondled again, then console yourself in the knowledge that you must have a very inviting ass. hahahaha

  84. Gooner In Exile says:

    Firstly GoonerB a good report on the match and you have called it fairly IMO.

    Skim read comments so may have missed responses and clarifications:

    Bradford supporters superb at Wembley today….that is how to support your club.

    I still cannot forgive those lucky enough (or maybe unlucky enough) to be at Wembley for the final vs Birmingham vacating the stadium before the trophy ceremony….a shocking indictment of what we have become as fans.

    Rasp made a very good point earlier about the empty seats being ST seats. There must be a way for the club to see which tickets are not consistently used and threaten to take them away from them, they could either be sold to Red and Silver members in the next season. And personally I think you would see less red seats if more of us could plan further than 4 weeks ahead or ticket exchange trolley dash. Thankfully @ArsenalTickets on twitter provides a very useful face value reselling system up to kick off.

    The other problem with the Exchange is it only comes available once games are sold out, the final tickets sold to red members are normally upper tier at the back and for me overpriced because I think there is a distinct lack of atmosphere up in the gods.

  85. Gooner In Exile says:

    Ash you really have nothing to add to the debate here, bore off.

  86. Anyone else think that ash has forgotten he’s visited us before ….. surely he hasn’t said anything new today :)

  87. Gooner In Exile says:

    Congratulations also in order to Swansea today the football they have been playing has been exceptional and from players not considered to be world class.

    Ive always fancied Dyer for Arsenal (especially if Theo had moved on) but after his little hissy fit over the penalty i am not so sure.

    But once again watching Swansea reminded me that Martinez started the revolution.

    Ive just read his wiki and i was stupidly unaware that he had started his playing career at Wigan.

    More interestingly he has a degree in physiotherapy and a post graduate diploma in business management. Should please those who have criticisms of Arsene on those fronts :D

  88. Rasp says:

    Hi peaches, have you checked his No. to make sure he’s not someone else in disguise?

  89. Gooner In Exile says:

    I tried binning him yesterday Peaches but i didn’t seem to be able to silence him permanently.

  90. Gooner In Exile says:

    I figured he was Rasp, but then he keeps saying things like “your team” which means he has either jumped ship to someone more successful or it isn’t him.

  91. No :oops: have you?????

  92. Domhuail says:

    Ass-Cole: your post is full of rancour AND errors galore. But first let’s note another great defeat for the Chavs and their wonderful manager….wait, is that a revolving door I hear starting to turn….ahah….Abramovich is coming out of Russian hibernation again I see with an axe and a handful of cash….that can only mean one thing! Some managerial heads will be rolling AGAIN at Chavtown.

    Now your misinformation:

    1) Wenger’s annual salary has never been officially verified but according to the France Football magazine his £7.5m (8,544,750 Euro)-a-year salary, runs until 2014.

    Mourinho (€14.8 million)
    Carlo Ancelotti, Paris Saint-Germain (€13.5 million)
    Pep Guardiola, FC Barcelona (€9.5 million)
    Guus Hiddink, Anzhi Makhachkala (€8.6 million)
    Sir Alex Ferguson (€8.5 million) plus dividends
    Wenger (€8.5 million) but no dividends
    Roberto Mancini (€5.9 million)

    2) What regression?…..you mean being in the top 4 for the last 14 years or in the CL for the last 16, or finishing 3 places ahead of the Chav’s in the EPL last season, or never being relegated since re-entering the First division in 1919…the only Club to do this.

    3) The only lying being done here is your acrimonious and juvenile insistence that Wenger misled Nasri,Fabregas or RVP. Actually, reports about their departure all confirm they were the ones misdirecting and misrepresenting their true desires to the fans and Wenger while claiming to love the Arsenal.

    4) Which Club is in the relegation zone you moron? Maybe the Chav’s will eventually end up there after their hundredth new manager gets fired once again? Making up the numbers in the CL…so making up the numbers in the Europa League is the Chav’s new ambition?

    Your entire post stinks of fear and duplicity, trying to hide Chelsea’s regression from title contenders to potential mid-table losers under Benitez, by once again coming on a decent blog like AA and trying to redirect real Football supporters chagrin and ridicule at Chelsea, to anyone else but ideally the Arsenal. Shame on you and you shame true Chelsea supporters as well.

  93. It’s so confusing when folks change their blog name all the time ….. :(

  94. Gooner In Exile says:

    Does Fergie really get dividends? So that means he owns some shares……very interesting

  95. Domhuail says:

    RockyLives….thanks Rocky…….Podolski is a true striker but is used to the Bundesliga style of play and pace, ( slightly slower initial attacking ,fast counter-attacks, diehard defending, much less physical than the EPL, fewer serious fouls permitted and no Rooneyesque screaming at officials, etc.) not exactly the EPL standard, right? He could be a great CF but a better striker sitting behind a true CF. He was a real poacher in Germany and often scored on rebounds and poor clearances from the opposition defense. He scored from short,medium and long range but usually from just inside or just outside the 18 yard area.
    the Germans, true to their character, have organized and disciplined their Football into a fairly uniform and homogenous style both managerially and tactically. Their Sportsverein setup is a mirror of the Bundesliga philosophy and their coaching setup is equally impressive from kids up to professionals. you could do worse in copying their approach in Britain.
    My guess is that Wenger will try and re-orient the Arsenal to a German model. Don’t forget he is almost as German as he is French and speaks perfect German as well. His mentality is Alsatian, not French.

  96. Domhuail says:

    GIE….apparently, from what I have seen, he gets a share of dividends but how much and under what circumstances I cannot verify despite my best efforts. Not a bad idea if you’re a winning manager like him.

  97. Manthan says:

    People here critizing poldi i would like to tell them poldi is a striker or SS… He is not a winger so he will take time to adjust his stats are good so far… I am still unhappy with OG he is striker he should be scoring goals but still its not the case… He should improve finishing in training….

  98. Gooner In Exile says:

    Manthan having watched a lot of Girouds goals in YouTube clips from last season it appears most of his goals are hammer finishes (basically boot through the ball and kick as hard as he can).

    There are some deft touches but in the main he opts for power, and judging by French goalkeepers I have seen in action in Europe this year power and on target gets goals. There are times this year when he has needed a more relaxed finish but not come up with the goods, we will have to see of he can add that string to his bow.

  99. nihirealist says:

    I don’t know if Ferguson owns shares, but any discussion on Ferguson should include this

    http://anotherarsenalblog.blogspot.in/2012/11/the-truth-about-sir-alex-ferguson.html

  100. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Excellent footballing weekend. Now for W’Ham to do their bit in setting up an exciting grandstand climax to the season.

  101. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Very interesting comments from a few of you regarding Poldi, and I certainly agree with them.
    Despite his goalscoring stats, he is certainly played out of positon in my opinion.
    I’d far rather see him as the 1st/2nd lone striker with Ollie, however that leaves a gaping hole on the left, and after a DM, would be the first position I’d upgrade.

  102. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Techy question.
    Rasp asked Peaches to “check his number” referring to Ash. Is that his IP?
    Can anyone here with access to the controls check mine and tell me where it says I’m based?
    Genuine problem at this end.

  103. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I’m based in Westminster according to my IP address.
    Happy with that :-)

  104. Red Arse says:

    Micky, :-)

    I had heard you were all over the place!! Now proof positive!

  105. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All

    Micky. YOu are coming up as being in Skipton Yorkshire ! What’s it like Up North?

  106. MickyDidIt89 says:

    RA All true :-)
    BR Eh? I just googled me and it said my IP was in Westminster !?
    How did you find me in Skipton?

  107. Big Raddy says:

    Can’t give away all my secrets ;-)

    Where are you?

  108. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Raddy,
    Devon
    I now think the IP has nothing to do with your device, rather where your broadband provider is based.
    No idea really.

  109. Big Raddy says:

    Another search has you at The Central Methodist Church by Westminster Abbey.! Which cannot be where your broadband provider is …. or can it?

    Strange because mine a accurate and the search engine is usually spot on

  110. Red Arse says:

    Micky,

    “P” stands for Internet Protocol, so an IP address is an Internet Protocol address. What does that mean? An Internet Protocol is a set of rules that govern Internet activity and facilitate completion of a variety of actions on the World Wide Web. Therefore an Internet Protocol address is part of the systematically laid out interconnected grid that governs online communication by identifying both initiating devices and various Internet destinations, thereby making two-way communication possible.

    An IP address consists of four numbers, each of which contains one to three digits, with a single dot (.) separating each number or set of digits. Each of the four numbers can range from 0 to 255. Here’s an example of what an IP address might look like: 78.125.0.209. This innocuous-looking group of four numbers is the key that empowers you and me to send and retrieve data over our Internet connections, ensuring that our messages, as well as our requests for data and the data we’ve requested, will reach their correct Internet destinations. Without this numeric protocol, sending and receiving data over the World Wide Web would be impossible.

    IP addresses can be either static or dynamic. Static IP addresses never change. They serve as a permanent Internet address and provide a simple and reliable way for remote computers to contact you. Static IP addresses reveal such information as the continent, country, region, and city in which a computer is located; the ISP (Internet Service Provider) that services that particular computer; and such technical information as the precise latitude and longitude of the country, as well as the locale, of the computer. Many websites provide IP address look-up services to their visitors, free of charge. If you’re curious about your own IP address, you can locate these websites by performing a Google search.

  111. Red Arse says:

    The IP address is specific to each computer.

    It can be a ‘static’ or ‘dynamic’ address. The first is self explanatory but because of the number of ‘devices now in existence many have the latter which are borrowed from an ever changing pool and can change each time you connect to the net.

  112. Red Arse says:

    Micky,

    A check of your IP has you in Holloway prison! :-)
    Own up you scallywag!! :-)

  113. Big Raddy says:

    Thanks RA

  114. MickyDidIt89 says:

    RA,
    So I am dynamic
    Are you saying it has nothing to do with my provider, just the device itself?

  115. Big Raddy says:

    Nothing to do with Arsenal but Dyer’s petulance left a sour taste after a superb C1F.

    It won’t be the Swansea win which I remember, it will be yet another example of the shameful egocentricity of some PL players (not you, King Santi)

  116. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Raddy,
    I only saw the last ten minutes, so happily missed the event about which you speak.
    Highlight for me was hearing Laudrup talking about his first Trophy as a Manager.
    First of many Trophies I imagine :-)

  117. Red Arse says:

    Micky/Raddy,

    I would not like either of you to think I have any knowledge about IP’s other than very general stuff, but if you go to:- http://www.whatismyip.com/
    all will be revealed. :-)

  118. Red Arse says:

    The Dyer/De Gusman (?) squabble over who should takr the penalty, was childish to an extreme, and I have never seen anything like that before.

    The captain should have taken the ball off both of them and given it to someone else!

  119. kelsey says:

    Morning

    Well it must be Monday if we are talking about IP addresses.

    Mine is accurate as it says Margate Kent

    What’s all this about Bould spitting his chewing gum out right in the direction of AW as he was about to sub someone. Anyone confirm the flavour.

  120. Manthan says:

    GIE,
    Agree he should worked on finsihing more he can become more deadly.. Even i saw the video now and i totally agree with you he use to shoot ball with Power but IN PL GK are intellgent so he dont getting the goal… If he works more on finishing calmly he can become a real goal proacher,.. Untill then poldi should be tried as CF for some odd games…

  121. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Kelsey,
    Malaga, Margate…..close

  122. Duck says:

    I just checked RA’s and it says NeverNeverLand.

  123. kelsey says:

    More Brits in Malaga Micky :)

  124. Rasp says:

    Morning all …..

    …… New post ……

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